Harrisburg 23 Jan 2013 10:00 start

[donstrom]

Updated Monday 1/14/13 -

START TIME 10:00 AM

There will be a rally in Harrisburg on January 23, 2013 which will occur at the Capitol building and surrounding area. This is occurring on the same day as CeaseFire PA plans to amass at the Capitol to promote their agenda of 'reasonable' gun control ( https://www.facebook.com/events/535161183175503/ ), which is nothing but unreasonable demands aimed at full control. WE NEED YOU THERE TO SHOW SUPPORT OF OUR 2A RIGHTS!!

This rally is being promoted as the Pennsylvania Responsible Citizens March.

While specifics are still being finalized at this moment, the latest updated information for the event will be posted here.

For those that can offer help in the planning and execution of this event, shoot PreserveandProtect a PM and you can be included on his discussion link.

The purpose of this march is to:

1) Reinforce the fact that responsible and ordinary citizens own and carry firearms,

2) Dispel the myth that gun owners are bad people,

3) Show solidarity and organization of Pro-2A citizens in an effort to prevent hostile gun restrictions and laws.

WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS, we are the law-abiding citizens who understand the meaning and purpose of the Second Amendment, and are responsible in our efforts to abide by it. Our voices must be heard over those calling for knee-jerk reactive measures that will only punish the lawful citizens. We grieve over the sensless loss of innocent lives taken by a madman, and our focus is to not just maintain but foster our abilities to counter such evil.

Please join us in this effort, and enlist as many of like-minded friends and family as you can get.

Some preliminary info:
- BE PROFESSIONAL in appearance and actions.. This includes style of clothing and language on signs, ie no profanity or obscene/provocative statements.

- The majority of us will be participating in an outdoor rally, either in place or marching on the streets surrounding the Capitol (to be determined soon). We encourage signs and banners that positively champion our cause. In addition, a small contingent will enter the Capitol as repesentatives of our cause and meet with legislators (to be determined). Note: the Capitol Police are unable to provide secure storage of long guns if entry to the building is requested; long gun carriers must remain outside unless other arrangements have been made.

- CC, OC and long arms are part of our daily routine, and are welcomed here. However, it is necessary that any CC or OC be done using a proper holster, and long guns be slung over the shoulder and never in a 'low port' position.

- Remember that PA is still under 'State of Emergency' rules as they pertain to the carry of firearms. From the PA UFA:

§ 6107. Prohibited conduct during emergency.

No person shall carry a firearm, rifle or shotgun upon the public streets or upon any public property during an emergency proclaimed by a State or municipal governmental executive unless that person is:

1) Actively engaged in a defense of that person's life or property from peril or threat.
2) Licensed to carry firearms under section 6109 (relating to licenses) or is exempt from licensing under section 6106(b) (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).
(June 13, 1995, 1st Sp.Sess., P.L.1024, No.17, eff. 120 days)

- There are public parking areas near the assembly site, see http://www.harrisburgparking.org/ , however carpooling is highly recommended!

- The exact rally point is yet to be determined.

(updated 1/03/13) To understand the importance of this public demonstration, refer to this link for information provided by"The Community Tool Box": http://ctb.ku.edu/en/tablecontents/s...main_1258.aspx

Public demonstration is a big-dot deal, it's what creates lasting videos and sound bites. While we are planning for this to be a success, keep in mind that the media covering this, as well as most of the flock of sheeple, are looking at us to fail miserably. We can avoid negative perception by keeping ourselves focused and delivering a clear message; we are responsible citizens against gun violence. We oppose any restrictions that punish our law-abiding community while doing nothing to address the root causes.

WHAT WE CAN EXPECT DURING OUR DEMONSTRATION:
- Media coverage
- Probing and possibly leading questions by the media
- Harassment by those of an opposing view. This will include taunting, baiting, viscious verbal attacks, and even being spit on or otherwise assaulted. WE MUST KEEP THE UPPER HAND AT ALL COSTS! Do not sink to the level of the antagonizers, that is EXACTLY what they want and EXACTLY what the media will play on the five, six, and eleven o'clock news!

We have arranged this demonstration to show the public that we are not the evil in the world. We must do everything possible to convey that. If you're coming for pure confrontation or a physical fight, stay home instead, you won't help us at all.

It is CRITICAL that we clearly understand our cause from the get-go.

Update Friday 1/04/2013:

There are certain stipulations specified in the use of the Capitol public areas that must be understood by those who participate in this rally:

- The public areas of the Capitol Complex must be maintained as intact, attractive, safe and readily available to the thousands of individuals who visit and work there. The Capitol Complex also must be available to individuals who wish to exercise their constitutional rights to assemble and to communicate their views to government officials and the public.

- Responsibilities of users of the Capitol Complex. Individuals or organizations are responsible for returning the areas used in conducting their events or exhibits to their original condition. Individuals or organizations are responsible for any vandalism, damage, breakage, loss or other destruction to the Capitol Complex caused by that individual or organization. The Department will assess individuals or organizations for damages incurred. The cost of the repair will include the costs for the services of specialists in relevant historical restoration skills as determined by the Secretary.

- Obligation to the Commonwealth to indemnify and hold harmless. Individuals and organizations using the Capitol Complex will be required by the Department to indemnify and hold harmless the Commonwealth, its departments, agents and employees, from and against all suits, damages, claims or other liabilities due to personal injury or death, damage to or loss of property to the Commonwealth or to others, or for any other injury or damage arising out of or resulting from the use of the Capitol Complex.

- Damage to Commonwealth property. Defacing or damaging in any manner the Capitol grounds, including (without limitation) trees, shrubbery, flowers, lawns, sidewalks, fences, lighting fixtures, light wells, fire hydrants, benches, statues, monuments, plaques and subterranean features that are necessary for the maintenance and operation of the Capitol (such as lawn sprinkler systems, sewer and water mains, electrical conduit, and the like), or any other feature is not allowed. Likewise, defacing or damaging the exterior walls and surfaces of the building, including the entrances, porches and staircases, is not allowed.

- Limitations applicable to certain Commonwealth property. Stepping or climbing upon statues, monuments, fences, lighting fixtures, light wells, trees or parts of the buildings and grounds within the Capitol Complex not intended for these purposes is not allowed.

- Demonstrations and leafleting. Picketing, demonstrations and the distribution of literature may not impede or interfere with Commonwealth business or public access to and use of the buildings within the Capitol Complex. Individuals distributing literature shall remove all discarded items from the grounds at the conclusion of their activity.

- Driving stakes or other items into the ground prohibited. Due to the presence of underground utility, electrical and drainage lines, signs or banners may not be driven into the ground, nor may they be supported in or by any tree, monument or other structure affixed to the Capitol grounds, except as authorized by the Secretary. Signs (excluding disclaimer signs required under § 86.3(8)(iv) (relating to policy governing the public areas of the Capitol Complex) or banners supported by freestanding devices) may not be left unattended. An individual shall be stationed within 2 feet of a freestanding sign or banner at all times to prevent damage to the grounds, injury to individuals, and for security reasons.

- Alcoholic beverages. Alcoholic beverages may not be served or consumed in any public area within the Capitol Complex...
These are no-brainer stipulations, but it is critical that we abide by this code, maintain decorum, and police after ourselves when done.


Update 1/09/13:

ALL PLANNNG DETAILS ARE NOW FOUND IN A DEDICATED THREAD:

http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ml#post2242362

Please refer to that thread for details, BUT CONTINUE TO USE THIS ONE FOR DISCUSSION.


Regards - Don

[IIIIIREPOIIIII]

Im in! Just one question. Do we march with our rifles and side arms?


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[Kazz]

I will be there

[donstrom]

It is important, for me at least, that the Elders of this community; specifically Kim, ungawa, PennsyPlinker, renegadephoeinix and the rest, to know that this counter-demonstration to CeaseFire's event in NO WAY is meant to undermine those efforts that you all have so selflessly put in before. In fact, I intend to make the Rally in April. You all have my thanks for the work that you have done, and continue doing, in the political arena.

This thread is the direct result of the very real threat to our freedoms that is happening now, the threats that you warned us about earlier. They are here now, and those of us in this thread feel the need to act NOW. Ceasefire has thrown down the gauntlet and we must respond. We may have come on board too late to see or heed your warnings, but we all see now that the tsunami is on the horizon; we must be represented as the voice of reason and sanity while CeaseFire attempts to corral the sheeple.

We, who are new to the fold, are not any less adamant in our convictions as you are; we need your help in this show of the flag. Please do not let this issue divide us, rather help us in this essential display of unity.

Regards - Don

[PreserveandProtect]

It is important, for me at least, that the Elders of this community; specifically Kim, ungawa, PennsyPlinker, renegadephoeinix and the rest, to know that this counter-demonstration to CeaseFire's event in NO WAY is meant to undermine those efforts that you all have so selflessly put in before. In fact, I intend to make the Rally in April. You all have my thanks for the work that you have done, and continue doing, in the political arena.

VERY WELL SAID, Don!

I agree 110%

As a matter of fact, as a long time "spectator" of those who have been organizing and attending protests (hangs head in shame), I sense many others are like me- not sure how to best get involved. We want to.

Maybe if we can get this going and get a number of new faces to reinforce all the previous and ongoing efforts, we can carry it on into the April and other events.

The more "organized" things we do, the better organized we will be. An organized and motivated group becomes a force to be respected. Political, financial, local, national, etc.

I join Don and others in hoping this effort will be embraced by those who have worked so hard and so long on our behalf. WE NEED YOUR HELP!

And, of course, you will have ours, too

Shoulder, meet Grindstone

[Fastfords90]

I'm a new member to the board, and pretty new to all the threats against our rights. I've been shooting for a few years now though and I don't want anything to change that.

I'm turning 23 on the the 23rd and that would be a sweet way to celebrate my B-Day. I'm also right down the road from Harrisburg luckily.

So count me in. Id be glad to help in any way so please let me know what I can do!

[donstrom]

One other note, and with all due respect...

No long arms at this event ..EDIT 1/02/13...this stipulation removed!!

OC/CC OK.

[nick060200]

Is this something that would be safe to bring a child to? The reason I ask is because if we are expecting the opposition to curse, spit, or whatever else I don't want to bring my daughter.

[gumbys1up]

i would go if...

i had a ride..

and was able to carry while there...

there is absolutley no point of going to defend gun rights unarmed.. thats just fucking stupid.. it would b like going 2 the race track... without a car...



best of luck hope u all the best please dont make us look stupid.. im good enough at that already.. if there is anything i can do besides going let me know..

i refuse to play ball w these ppl when 90% of the time they are breaking the very laws they write.. im done wasting my time arguing with a criminal enterprise that could give a fuck less about me..

molon labe.

[Chazman321]

I would love to go, but taking the day off work and driving 530 miles round trip, just can't afford it...


-Chaz