Loaded Mags in Vehicle for AK Pistol While Possessing AK Rifle???

**Mr_Gixxer** · December 23rd, 2012, 12:48 AM

With a valid LTCF and a loaded Draco behind the seat with spare mag in glove box or wherever, can I transport an unloaded Maadi in the vehicle without breaking any law?

My hunch is maaaaaaybe yes if the officer was cool and agreed that the mags were for the pistol not the rifle, maaaaaaybe no if the cop had found a hair in his donut that morning.

I'm confused, searched a little but I'm sure I missed the answer somewhere.

Thanks for the help! And if this was answered elsewhere, call me an ass. I'm an ass.....

**GunLawyer001** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:00 AM

You need to read the definition of "loaded" in 6102 of the UFA. It's aimed at "firearms", but would probably be applied to long guns as well.

**Mr_Gixxer** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by GunLawyer001

You need to read the definition of "loaded" in 6102 of the UFA. It's aimed at "firearms", but would probably be applied to long guns as well.

Ok,

"Loaded." A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the nondetachable magazine or, in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm. If the magazine is inserted into a pouch, holder, holster or other protective device that provides for a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition, then the pouch, holder, holster or other protective device shall be deemed to be a separate compartment.

So just keep the rifle in a separate container from the loaded mags and without a magazine full of ammo inserted in it and its good?

**CHEMICAL** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:08 AM

as long as the rifle does not have a loaded mag inserted you're good. rifle mag well and chamber=empty? don't sweat!

**Mr_Gixxer** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL

as long as the rifle does not have a loaded mag inserted you're good. rifle mag well and chamber=empty? don't sweat!

That's what I figured. Wanted to know what I'd be up against if some disgruntled cop decides to make a big deal about the loaded mags. I guess said cop would likely disarm me at gunpoint anyway at the knowledge of the concealed Draco lol. Thanks guys!

**GunLawyer001** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL

as long as the rifle does not have a loaded mag inserted you're good. rifle mag well and chamber=empty? don't sweat!

The statute applies to loaded mags in the same container, unless in a separate pouch or compartment inside that container. "Loaded" means something different in the law than it does to normal human beings.

**Mr_Gixxer** · December 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM

I understand it all now. Easiest option for me is to simply put the unloaded rifle in the tool box. But I could also put it in a rifle case, or keep the loaded magazines in their own cases.

Hmmmm, options options

Again, thanks.