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March 16th, 2008, 09:26 AM #1
How did they pass NICS and not PICS
edited by me, I have my reasons....
thanksLast edited by chesire17201; January 28th, 2009 at 09:48 AM.
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March 16th, 2008, 09:57 AM #2
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
my Father bought guns for years. Well makin this story short, PICS denied him Because he and some friends stole gas from a farmers tractor in 1956
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March 16th, 2008, 10:21 AM #3
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
Article 1. Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution, to which the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is a signatory, states, in part: "No State shall ... pass any Bill of Attainder [or] ex post facto Law ..."
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Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
Time to get a lawyer familar with Pa. gun laws so your friend can get a reversal on the state's decision to deny him.
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March 16th, 2008, 01:17 PM #5
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
Would seem to me that he IS legal to purchase, own, carry etc,etc. seeing as he can pass a FBI check and the NICS check, and it must be something in the Pa language that screws him up.
still confused though and agree, would be nice to hear what an attorney has to say on this, will have to tell him, shouldn't be too much $$ .....
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March 16th, 2008, 02:46 PM #6
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
PA's law is slightly more stringent than FL's and Federal law. There is a discretionary factor too if it goes to an operator. If it remotely looks like a prohibited item they will deny the purchase or permit approval. You must then challenge the denial and try to prove otherwise.
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March 16th, 2008, 05:36 PM #7
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
Dumb question...
What is PICS? Sounds like Pennsylvania instant check. If so I must have passed it when I got my carry permit and bought guns but I thought I was getting NIC checked.
In fact, I thought I remembered the sherrif saying NIC check.
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March 16th, 2008, 05:39 PM #8
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March 16th, 2008, 06:42 PM #9
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
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March 16th, 2008, 07:49 PM #10
Re: How did they pass NICS and not PICS
The PICS uses the NICS as part of their check. In PA, IIRC if you were found guilty of a crime that could have resulted in 1 year or more in jail, no matter what the actual sentance was (could have been probation) you are ineligible to purchase guns and probably would be denied a LTCF. The Form 4473, block 11b, and 11c both address this also. Block 11b asks if you are under indictment for a felony, 11c asks if you have been convicted of a felony and both deal with imprisonment of 1 year or more (again it comes into play not what the actual sentence was but what COULD it have been). In PA you can also get sent to jail for certain misdemeaners which can prohibit you for gun purchases.
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