Possible self defense shooting Lawrence County

[GunLawyer001]

Thats is what I was thinking when I posted this. With only the facts provided it seems as if should have been a pretty strait forward self defense shooting.

"The victim could see the suspect and the victim wanted to confront the suspect. His buddy told him to let it go but the victim approached the suspect.

I found this bit interesting as well. I had to reread the article three times as I had a very difficult time accepting the aggressor (at least outside) as "victim" and the person leaving the scene as the "suspect".

This is what I've been pointing out for years, in the eyes of the system, the guy with the gun is probably the bad guy.

Doesn't matter who called 911 afterwards; guns are evil, shooting is bad, and you could shoot a guy while you're bleeding from the skull and he's kneeling on you and smashing your head into the concrete, and telling you in no uncertain terms "you gonna die tonight", and the media will still refer to poor little Treyvon as "the victim".

[Her9852]

This is what I've been pointing out for years, in the eyes of the system, the guy with the gun is probably the bad guy.

Doesn't matter who called 911 afterwards; guns are evil, shooting is bad, and you could shoot a guy while you're bleeding from the skull and he's kneeling on you and smashing your head into the concrete, and telling you in no uncertain terms "you gonna die tonight", and the media will still refer to poor little Treyvon as "the victim".

110% correct .
Expect to fight for your freedom if you shoot a perp .
No one sees the pink elephant in the room ...
IMO ,

[redeye202]

Does this DA have a political agenda, like running for judge, and will screw anybody, guilty or innocent, to reach that goal.

GL, do you know anything about him.

[middlefinger]

i didn't see anything about if the shooter was under the influence ?

if so that could be a factor in his arrest and charges being filed.

[Nucking Futs]

It is such a shame that you have to be on the edge of your own life to defend it and you still are seen as the bad guy.

I hope this guy is released soon and everything turns out ok for him

[Nucking Futs]

That does indeed sound like the framework for a self-defense claim, in the absence of disqualifying factors (carrying unlawfully, for example).

. . . . .(2.1) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2.2), an actor is presumed to have a reasonable belief that deadly force is immediately necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat if both of the following conditions exist:

(i) The person against whom the force is used is in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered and is present within, a dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle; or the person against whom the force is used is or is attempting to unlawfully and forcefully remove another against that other's will from the dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle.
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Call me stupid, but is this taken from the new castle doctrine law or is this something else pertaining to self defense or use of deadly force.

[GunLawyer001]

Call me stupid, but is this taken from the new castle doctrine law or is this something else pertaining to self defense or use of deadly force.

The "Castle Doctrine" and "Stand Your Ground" changes were overlaid onto existing statutes, including the existing "use of force" statutes and the tort laws.

[brad5452]

It's obviously self defense and legal because of the castle doctrine, yet they're charging him for premeditated murder? Where the hell do they see premeditation in that? He wasn't even the aggressor!

[CHEMICAL]

i didn't see anything about if the shooter was under the influence ?

if so that could be a factor in his arrest and charges being filed.

It's not illegal to posses a gun with alcohol in your system...just saying.

[Tom488]

It's not illegal to posses a gun with alcohol in your system...just saying.

It wasn't illegal in AZ to possess 10mm JHP rounds, either - but when presented to a jury....