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Thread: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
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January 31st, 2013, 07:45 PM #81
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FYI, I had checked out AKFiles and there were no complaints. Their audience seemed to be a bit more mature than ours. Hopefully that doesn't hurt our opportunities in the future.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136893"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
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January 31st, 2013, 08:56 PM #82
Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
I have a question for you guys.
In the pics I seen, the carrier is more center on the chest.
I have a shoulder harness I got from Tactical Tailor for my AK. Would this shorter plate carrier allow me to use mag pouch carrier like this still. Mine is slightly different, but close to this.
The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control....
The day they want my guns, they'll have to bring theirs!!!Proud to be One of the 3%
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January 31st, 2013, 09:09 PM #83
Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
A carrier designed like the one below. Does it provide more coverage? Do you have plates down into the stomach area? And I guess one like this would be required for the side panels to work?
Hey, they didn't have these snazzy ones when I was in the Corps. There were big clunky and a pain in the ass to wear. Hated them.
I'm assuming that this style is for chest and back only. You would need a different carrier for side panels to work.
Last edited by Mtbkski; January 31st, 2013 at 09:21 PM. Reason: speliling
The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control....
The day they want my guns, they'll have to bring theirs!!!Proud to be One of the 3%
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January 31st, 2013, 10:08 PM #84
Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
Condor actually makes a decent carrier. It might not be great for daily use but i liked mine. I had the modular operator in ATACS. It could fit 10x13 front and back and has a cumberbund for side panels. They retail for around 100-145.
feedback thread http://forum.pafoa.org/feedback-109/...aj-c-burg.html
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February 1st, 2013, 08:45 AM #85
Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
The second carrier image is the one BCS made specifically for these plates. It comes with a side pocket option with two straps to hold the plates in place with a triglide. Locks them in place and keeps them from moving. The intent was to keep it super low profile. BCS has also come out with a slightly different low profile set up, but I am not sure they are ready to come to market with them. I have one as a prototype for testing.
There are guys who bought a carrier from others. Not sure who.
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February 7th, 2013, 09:24 PM #86Junior Member
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Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
I want to buy a vest as well, who should I get in touch with? Any lead time ETA?
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February 9th, 2013, 07:45 PM #87Junior Member
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Re: BODY ARMOR Group Buy..........
As the owner of The Target Man, LLC, I will answer your questions for Renov8 directly. Our armor is cut from sheets that have OFFICIAL NIJ CERTIFICATIONS. These sheets are certified under NIJ0101.08, which has the same testing criteria under NIJ0101.06. The "heat" (master sheet) has a 12"x12" sample sent to a lab where it is tested and QC'd. These pieces receive 6 impacts from 7.62 NATO at 15 meters. The testing is very specific. Each impact is equally spaced and shot in temperature controlled environments.
0101.06 and 0101.08, again, have the SAME testing requirement. 08 is specific to armor applications, while 06 is specific to body armor. Same impacts, same materials, etc. The EXACT SAME criteria.
A few questions where asked on another thread about how we cut these. Renov8 called me and I gave him the answer. To keep up with the demand, I sub out a lot of the cutting to a buddy's shop who has a CNC laser. I have a water-submerged plasma table. Both provide minimal heat affected zones.
I have plates with 100+ impacts....many shot with calibers which far exceed the NIJ specs. However, we list these as NIJ Level III armor to be on the "safe side". The .308 that you see the testing is 168 grain.... which is more powerful then the 7.62x51 NATO.
As far as the coating....we coat with Rhino Liner "Tuff Grip". During our initial testing (we tested about 15 variations of different brand liners, kevlar "sleeves", etc.) we had great results with Rhino catching the frag, but little "chunks" blew off the plate. We tried 12 different primers (none of which are Rhino's brand) and finally found a 3M primer that works great and does the trick. Every shot stayed "encapsulated" in the bed liner material and none of the fragmentation exited the carrier.
If you have questions about the product, it is best that I answer them as Renov8 has been the "middle man".
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