Second Ammendement Rights Taken Away

[virvin88]

Hi my name is Victoria
I am new to this forum and I have a few questions I hope this is the place to put them
First I am trying to get a license to open carry and I seem to be having a problem, when i was 15 I was 302(Involuntarily Committed) i was young and i was put in there by my parents because I wasnt a happy child I am now I grown woman a good mother and wife and would like my rights back

I was told that since I was 302 I lost my rights
First I would like to know the exact law in this case and if I can get my rights back also I am a little confused on if it matters that i was a juvenile at the time or not and what I have to do to find out.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and help me out

[Gun]

Lawyer time, and I'm being serious! Get one.

[Grimm]

First off, welcome to the forum. As for your question, there is no license just for open carry. You only need a license to open carry in Philadelphia as i see you live there, carry concealed, or in a vehicle. From what i understand, you will be unable to own or carry a firearm with that on your record. There are many others on here that may be able to help you with any possible legal options if they exist to fix that.

[Glock_23]

I obviously don't know you but I was an EMT for 6 years and had the displeasure of taking 302's to the ER on the daily...

Things I gathered from a 302:

-Each one of them needed to voluntary commit themselves but wouldn't because they were either too young to understand they were messed up or too drunk/high/mentally ill to know therefore required the INVOLUNTARY commitment by family or guardian.

-Each 302 was violent in some way and shouldn't have a firearm or any weapon near them (including their own feces, which is hard to strip someone of...)

-Each 302 I have encountered (which are countless) have either considered, threatened, or taken action to harm on themselves, family, friends, or complete strangers.

-Each 302 had a DAMN GOOD reason to get treatment, not that they had bad parents and they mistreated them and just "threw them" into the 302

-Police should take all 302's but they refuse to be bothered and their simple breath of "This is a medical problem" makes it such even though it is a LAW and LEGAL problem that requires either Police escort or Police ride along for EMS personnel safety. If you are going to cuff them to the stretcher and require you to follow us in your car to the ER, why not just cuff the person and put them into your patrol car for the ride down there? Insurance Money? Laziness? (this I would like an honest LEO to answer)

So, OP, why do you want that pistol again?

[streaker69]

I obviously don't know you but I was an EMT for 6 years and had the displeasure of taking 302's to the ER on the daily...

Things I gathered from a 302:

-Each one of them needed to voluntary commit themselves but wouldn't because they were either too young to understand they were messed up or too drunk/high/mentally ill to know therefore required the INVOLUNTARY commitment by family or guardian.

-Each 302 was violent in some way and shouldn't have a firearm near them

-Each 302 I have encountered (which are countless) have either considered, threatened. or taken action to harm on themselves,. family, friends, or complete strangers.

-Each 302 had a DAMN GOOD reason to get treatment, not that they had bad parents and they mistreated them and just "threw them" into the 302

-Police should take all 302's but they refuse to be bothered and their simple breath of "This is a medical problem" makes it such even though it is a LAW and LEGAL problem that requires either Police escort or Police ride along for EMS personnel safety.

So, why do you want that pistol again?

Did you even read the OP? She was 15 when she was involuntarily committed. She's now an adult, and is probably well past the rebellious stage that some parents either allow to happen or cannot control.

It doesn't matter why she wants it, she's an adult and she came here asking for help on how to get her rights restored, not judgement from someone that doesn't know anything about her.

[Glock_23]

Did you even read the OP? She was 15 when she was involuntarily committed. She's now an adult, and is probably well past the rebellious stage that some parents either allow to happen or cannot control.

It doesn't matter why she wants it, she's an adult and she came here asking for help on how to get her rights restored, not judgement from someone that doesn't know anything about her.

I have seen FAR worse judgement from other posters to this forum on other threads.. Most posters BASH the OP, I simply gave my personal insight to 302 patients...

Also, did you not read the first bullet? The person is either too YOUNG (etc 15) to realize what they are doing, or why they need the involuntary commitment?

And also that "-Each 302 had a DAMN GOOD reason to get treatment, not that they had bad parents and they mistreated them and just "threw them" into the 302" MOST kids then blame their parents for their 302 and NOT their behavior.

Apparently YOU need to read other folks posts before you respond with your verbal hogworsh.

How much experience have YOU had with psych patients to give ANY say in the matter???

Anyone here a P-doc that can attest? Anyone on the forums work for Western Psych?

[streaker69]

I have seen FAR worse judgement from other posters to this forum on other threads.. Most posters BASH the OP, I simply gave my personal insight to 302 patients...

Also, did you not read the first bullet? The person is either too YOUNG (etc 15) to realize what they are doing, or why they need the involuntary commitment?

Anyone here a P-doc that can attest? Anyone on the forums work for Western Psych?

The point is, it doesn't really matter, she came here asking for help. Questioning why she wants a firearm IMO, isn't important, unless your stance is that anyone that's ever been 302'ed shouldn't ever be allowed to own a firearm, and if that's the case, then you probably shouldn't be bothered posting here as all you're going to bring is a negative reaction.

She needs help, not your personal opinion of 302'ed persons.

[father-of-five]

I believe that trying to get the 302 nullified will require a lawyer and a psychiatrist to be involved. "Gunlawyer001" can probably give you the most accurate information regarding this process by sending a him a private message through this forum.

[Glock_23]

The point is, it doesn't really matter, she came here asking for help. Questioning why she wants a firearm IMO, isn't important, unless your stance is that anyone that's ever been 302'ed shouldn't ever be allowed to own a firearm, and if that's the case, then you probably shouldn't be bothered posting here as all you're going to bring is a negative reaction.

She needs help, not your personal opinion of 302'ed persons.

The forum exists to bring personal opinion... We wouldn't have a forum if it wasn't for the opinion of its posters...

And it may be true that people that were 302ed in the past are "born again", but would you say the same about someone that held a gun to someones head? Or maybe that murdered someone? Someone that committed a terrible child crime? The parents thought she did something SO BAD that she needed committed to a psych facility, that causes NO alarm to you? A criminal can snap and kill again, cant someone that isnt right mentally?

I have responded to TOO many calls of a child burned over 80% of their body by boiling water by their parents, can you guess what mental past the parent had? 302 due to acts of violence to animals, only took 20 years to do it to her own child. That was several years ago, I guess with the times comes the cure....

That was 1 call, and 1 call like that was, you guessed it... TOO MANY.

[streaker69]

The forum exists to bring personal opinion... We wouldn't have a forum if it wasn't for the opinion of its posters...

And it may be true that people that were 302ed in the past are "born again", but would you say the same about someone that held a gun to someones held? Someone that committed a crime? The parents thought she did something SO BAD that she needed committed to a psych facility, that causes NO alarm to you? A criminal can snap and kill again, cant someone that isnt right mentally?

Has no bearing on her question here. There's a process for getting the 302 removed from her record and getting her rights restored. She's asking us on how to go about that process. She doesn't need to tell us her life story or the circumstances of it, as it has no bearing upon the question that she asked.

No one's opinion on this forum will have any bearing upon the process of getting her rights restored. Stick to the question that she asked.