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March 13th, 2008, 07:57 PM #1Grand Member
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Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
I'm not sure on this one. Does a WCO have the authority to request to see my LTCF? If so under what circumstances? For example if I'm heading out or in from a hunt, and I'm at my truck can they request my permit. I'm thinking not. The law says I must show my permit under lawful demand of a LEO.
I wouldn't think a WCO falls under that description. Am I incorrect?FUCK BIDEN
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March 13th, 2008, 08:07 PM #2
Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
i bet you would have to if they suspected you committed a game violation
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March 13th, 2008, 08:47 PM #3
Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
Since a LTCF isn't required to legally hunt, possess or transport 'hunting devices', I would question what the purpose for such a request was. I did however find some case law that seems to confirm that WCOs are considered law enforcement.
In Commonwealth v. Himes, Brian Himes challenged the legality of a WCO (Waterways, not Wildlife, in this case) to stop him for DUI. The arrest and resulting evidence was surpressed because "they may not conduct stops for violations of the Motor Vehicle Code unless they have completed the entire course of instruction specified at 37 Pa. Code § 203.51."
However, this was a limited exception to the wider held provision that "WCOs are authorized by statute to stop and arrest for any violation of law classified as a felony or misdemeanor".Get your "Guns Save Lives" stickers today! PM for more info.
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March 13th, 2008, 08:52 PM #4Grand Member
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Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
To hunt with a firearm, you need either a LTCF or a Sportsman Permit. I don't think that it is unreasonable for a WCO to ask to see either if he sees you wearing a pistol, or unloading one for example. You did not provide enough information. Under what circumstances would this be asked? Did he see your firearm? I understand your question could be merely hypothetical.
Jules
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March 13th, 2008, 09:04 PM #5
Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
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March 13th, 2008, 10:17 PM #7Grand Member
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Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
Well ultimately I would like to explore multiple scenarios. As I said under what circumstances, if any, would a WCO be authorized to request my LTCF.
For simplicity lets assume no game law or criminal law has been violated.
Let's say a WCO sees my revolver while I'm gearing up.
Let's say a WCO sees my Glock while I'm gearing up.
Let's say a WCO sees either while I'm gassing up.
I don't think this question has been asked yet, and since we can now carry any weapon legal with a LTCF I think this should be explored at some length.
BTW I assume you did mean that a LTCF or Sportsmen’s permit is required
to possess a firearm permitted by the permit as opposed to one legal for hunting.FUCK BIDEN
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March 13th, 2008, 10:21 PM #8
Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
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March 13th, 2008, 10:24 PM #9Grand Member
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Re: Can a WCO request to see my LTCF?
I appreciate all opinions and although jules statement was not totally correct he usually seems to have it right and likely just assumed we knew what he meant.
A better approach might have been:
gnbrotz Do you mean "firearm" as defined by the UFA (ie - not my .22 rifle)? I believe it's perfectly legal to hunt with a 'long gun' with only a hunting license. No Sportsman's Permit or LTCF required.FUCK BIDEN
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March 13th, 2008, 10:28 PM #10Active Member
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