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    Default PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    PA's primary is often too late, but this year the Dems are still running neck-to-neck, and pundits think that PA will be important to the Dem nomination. PA Democratic voters (outside of Philly) tend to be pro-gun, so I wonder: Will Obama and Hillary become less anti-gun (either in reality or in rhetoric) in the coming weeks? And will it do any good to contact their campaigns and re-inforce the notion that being anti-gun is a losing position in national elections?
    In Pennsylvania, Democrats everywhere but the southeast are fairly conservative: pro-gun, pro-life. What we used to call Reagan Democrats.
    (http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/s...nsylvania.aspx)
    Both candidates seem eager to downplay their anti-gun past. A few months ago, Obama suggested that he saw the need for keeping a gun for self-defense in rural areas because 911 can't respond soon enough. (This is a little better than John Kerry's hunting skit, but Obama still failed to see that the same self-defense argument applies to urban areas as well as rural. ) Of course, neither candidate can credibly change their personal views to be truly pro-gun. But adopting a new understanding of the Second Amendment might be believable, in light of the constitutional arguments that have surfaced in DC v. Heller.

    So, what do you guys think? Might it be worthwhile to contact Obama and Hillary regarding their anti-2A stances?

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    it doesnt matter what they become or when, because once their elected thats it. flip flop. im sure they will tell you what you want to hear just to get a vote.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    I don't believe either of them are intellectually capable of introspection, depth of thought, or honest critical assessment of any issue beyond what their rigid schemas will allow.

    Still, they might lie about their positions and adjust their stances to get votes.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    it doesnt matter what they become or when, because once their elected thats it. flip flop. im sure they will tell you what you want to hear just to get a vote.
    Yep. Agreed.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    Both candidates seem eager to distance their perception from their reality in hopes of getting elected.
    That's closer to the truth.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    If their lips are moving, they're eating or lying.
    The older I get, the better I used to be.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    HAHAHAHAHA socialists never change their view they just lie. Then they sneak in your house and take your wallet and guns. Look at europe and Australia. It works I swear!


    Seriously, dont trust them as far as you can throw them. Unfortunately we are surrounded by anything but patriots and freedom lovers in the coming election. McCain is marginal at best. Its down hill from there. Where are the democrats of the past like the FDR's and such? People with integrity and a truly deep love for freedom.

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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    The Democrats will win PA through Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. They don't need to do any soul searching at all. Note the results from 2004:


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    Default Re: PA primary will make a difference for the Dems? Might they become less anti-gun?

    Hillary and/or Obama could join the NRA and worship at the altar of Charlton Heston and it would not matter one bit.

    The democratic party owes too many favors to the gun grabbers.

    They are not about to give up a significant portion of their voter base.

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