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August 24th, 2012, 05:04 PM #81Banned
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Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ml#post2123204
see the discussion; starts with prior posting.
do read this very informative article
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ers/55585176/1
addresses exactly your concern. we have to challenge this, they are misconstruing the law in many ways.Last edited by giles_farmer; August 24th, 2012 at 05:22 PM.
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August 24th, 2012, 07:35 PM #82Super Member
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August 24th, 2012, 07:47 PM #83
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August 24th, 2012, 09:30 PM #84Banned
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Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
because the "another" is the State itself; that's the damaged party- and therefore the Plaintiff as well. often the term "injures the peace and dignity of the commonwealth" or similar.
the government has the power to regulate and punish threats to the public order- "drunk driving" has been determined to be against that interest.
i have no personal dog in this fight either way, just breakin it down... but generally, most of us would be unhappy if someone does something possibly dangerous to the rest of, like fire randomly into the air in the middle of town, even if no one got hurt. think about the first thing you say to a kid that survives something risky and stupid- "you could have gotten killed" or "you could have killed us".... etc
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August 24th, 2012, 10:00 PM #85Banned
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Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
the PICS is wrong. the offense was not conceivably punished by more than the sentencing grid; the statutory maximum is limited by the sentencing standards. the actual sentence itself shows that the grid was applied. people get very easily caught up on labels but law is full of "if's and but's". see previous post.
i know im jumping in late on this thread, but the OP is not a "prohibited person" under any interpretation of PA law. the question is federal, which is a lot of other things that have nothing to do with common perceptions of public safety. first, the federal is based on "affecting interstate commerce"- not how drunk driving affects this imaginary proposition, but how possession of firearms might. the whole thing is the end-run of the Commerce Clause around the guarantees and limitations set by the U.S. Constitution, which is based directly on the Declaration of Independence.
and prohibitions and such are not punishments. punishments are fines and/or imprisonment. that's it (or death, in a capital case). nothing to with paying a 'debt to society'; it has to do with what are reasonable regulations to protect the public in the future.Last edited by giles_farmer; August 24th, 2012 at 10:02 PM.
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August 25th, 2012, 10:29 PM #86
Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
it's simple; don't drink and drive over and over and over again
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August 25th, 2012, 11:28 PM #87Member
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Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
That’s what pissed me off so bad. Minimum is mandatory under this statute, yet maximum is under this statute. Doesn’t make sense. No one has ever been sentenced for a third and last dui for more than a year unless there were significant other crimes involved.
And as for the trollers. It isn’t our fault you have no lives and will never be pretty. Lose some weight.!
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August 25th, 2012, 11:36 PM #88Member
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Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
And as for the trollers. It isn’t our fault you have no lives and will never be pretty. Lose some weight.![/QUOTE]
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August 26th, 2012, 12:52 AM #89Member
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August 26th, 2012, 05:23 PM #90
Re: denied for m1 third and last dui in 2000
Please Note: The poster was issued an infraction for this post.
I'm on this thread because you aren't a responsible person and don't deserve 2A rights. You can forgive 1 DUI if the subject follows the proper steps to recovery, but not 3.
You did not care enough to stop after the 1st arrest...so why should others care about "your" problem. You do not deserve a pardon to own a firearm, period. You have shown that you are not qualified to own a firearm. Corbett and any future governor will not pardon someone with 3 DUIs. This isn't trolling, its FACT.
I'm 26 years old, college grad, work full time..have no debt, paid my way through college and live a responsible life with no arrests or any legal troubles.
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