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    Default Police in favor of civilian gun ownership.

    Since many people seem to think the police are anti-gun, thought I'd post this article I got in my email tonight.


    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...,5685888.story

    Ready to shoot

    The legal availability of handguns makes for a better-prepared police force and a safer citizenry

    By Ed Nowicki and David B. Kopel
    February 27, 2008

    Taking handguns away from law-abiding civilians can endanger them - that's a familiar argument. What most people might not know is that many police organizations also oppose handgun bans because of the harm they can cause to police training and preparedness.

    That's what we argued this month when we filed a friend-of-the-court brief against the District of Columbia's handgun ban in the U.S. Supreme Court. One of us, Ed Nowicki, is head of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association, a professional association of police trainers. We were joined in the brief by the other major police firearms training organization, the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors.

    The lawful availability of handguns for citizens provides the police with a much larger pool of recruits who have experience with handgun safety, and who have learned basic familiarity or developed proficiency in the use of handguns. That's why our brief was joined by a broad coalition of law enforcement organizations, including the Maryland Fraternal Order of Police.

    A citizen who has experience with handguns in hunting or target shooting will have acquired the habit of keeping his finger off the trigger until the last instant before the shot. For a police officer, this is a life-or-death skill; staying off the trigger while drawing the weapon in an emergency prevents accidental shootings.

    Likewise, a police recruit who has enjoyed target shooting as a civilian will have learned how to hold a handgun with a strong but not over-tight grip, and how to keep the gun steady while firing, avoiding the muzzle flip that causes missed shots.

    There are only so many hours in a police academy for firearms training. If a trainee is picking up a handgun for the first time, he will have to spend time acquiring elementary familiarity with its operation - flipping the safety on and off, and reloading quickly. It takes a while for these actions to become second nature, and that time would be better spent refining already developed skills, such as practicing engagement with multiple targets.

    Another amicus brief, filed by a group of retired generals and admirals, makes a similar point about military training and describes research showing that military recruits who have firearms training in civilian life perform much better in combat.

    Many innovations in police firearms training have been created by civilian trainers, who often have more time to dedicate to the subject than do police instructors; many police instructors do not teach fulltime, and those who do must teach a variety of subjects. For the same reason, many police firearms instructors are civilians.

    Jeff Cooper, a civilian, invented The Modern Technique, which is now the standard model for defensive pistolcraft. Mr. Cooper created the technique after World War II, based on his observations that Army handgun shooting methods were far from optimally effective. Many thousands of police officers - and police trainers - learned their skills at Mr. Cooper's Gunsite Ranch in Arizona. Other civilian experts, such as Massad Ayoob of New Hampshire and John Farnam of Colorado, have also made important contributions to handgun doctrine, and have themselves trained many police officers and police instructors.

    The widespread civilian possession of handguns also helps the police do their job. In countries such as the United Kingdom (where handguns are banned) or the Netherlands (where handguns are rare), the home-invasion burglary rate is 48 percent to 59 percent, and many home-invasion burglaries lead to assaults or rapes.

    In the United States, only 13 percent of house burglaries take place when someone is home, and studies show this is because about half of U.S. homeowners have a gun. And handguns are by far the best guns for home defense, because they're easy to maneuver in confined spaces and hard for criminals to grab.

    Because there are so many fewer home invasions in America, there are many fewer emergencies to which the police must respond. Thus, the police have more resources available to thwart, investigate or deter other crimes.

    Where law-abiding people are allowed to have guns, criminals know they're rolling the dice.



    Ed Nowicki, a 33-year police veteran, is executive director of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. David B. Kopel is an associate policy analyst with the Cato Institute.

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    Default Re: Police in favor of civilian gun ownership.

    Thanks for posting this man.. Actually made me good reading the net for a change

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    Nice to see that some of the leos are still on our side.

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    Yeah Steve, Thanks!

    The gun buy-back thread certainly wasn't a pat-on-the-back for LEO's......but I do appreciate that those 'gun grabs' are typically in states that think MUCH differently than here in PA.

    Thanks for sharing!
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    Thanks for posting the article.
    troll Free. It's all in your mind.

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    Great post Steve.
    "Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
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    Default Re: Police in favor of civilian gun ownership.

    Great read, thanks! We know most police have the same views we do, but like any large enough group, you have ALL KINDS. This comes from the good kind.

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    Great find, Steve.

    The only thing that bugs me about the article is its perpetuation of the misuse of the term "civilian."

    **pedant warning**

    Yeah, I know the word has changed in colloquial use (and is now even reflected as such in dictionaries) to mean anyone who is not a member of a given professional group. But it still irks me to hear someone not on active duty with the military suggest that he is not a civilian -- that is, he by his choice of words suggests that he is subject to some other law than civil law.

    Without getting into Latin (which I remember only in passing these days) the only person who wasn't a civilian when the term first arose was a slave or a member of the clergy. The slaves had no recourse to the judicial system, and the clergy had the ecclesiastical courts. The term later evolved to mean a person subject to military courts.

    The bottom line is that, to use the term properly, anyone who is subject to civil law, or the laws of the state as a matter of first recourse is a civilian.

    Police are subject to the laws of the state (as a matter of first recourse). Military (as a matter of first recourse) are subject to military courts (and the UCMJ) and not civilian courts for criminal matters.

    Police are therefore civilians, members of the military are not.

    And something about a police officer referring to Jeff Cooper as "a civilian" makes me grind my teeth.

    **end pedant warning**

    Anyway, again, great article, and great find.
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    Default Re: Police in favor of civilian gun ownership.

    Good Find

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    That article though, in my mind, creates more questions. The article is somewhat vague, and only points out "Ownership" but doesn't really address carrying or those dangerous assault weapons.

    I see that Maryland is mentioned in there. Maryland isn't exactly the model of what we would want for PA. So while the speak of ownership, we know that Maryland PD's are not too keen on the carrying of weapons (from all the info Lambo has given us) and they do support and AWB.

    Use of Maryland PD isn't exactly the thriving endorsement I would like.

    So.....

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    Default Re: Police in favor of civilian gun ownership.

    I would love for this article to be typical, but after reading the post, I left my office and happened across several of Philly's Finest. I posed the question:
    "What is your opinion of a law abiding citizen carrying a firearm after they have acquired a LtCF?"

    Not one was in favor. 3 were against, one ignored me, and one said he had no opinion. The last guy I spoke to I asked what he would do if he saw a man open carrying. He said he would call for back and then make an arrest. I thanked him for his time and walked away.

    While I am not disputing the findings of the article, I wish they were representative of the city I work.

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