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    Default Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Legislators don't seem to understand that we gun owners also want illegal guns off the streets but not at the expense of making it harder to acquire legal guns. This is the first story I've read in ages that makes me feel they're finally starting to "get it". Prosecuting the people with the illegal guns is the best way to reduce crime. I see this as a move in the right direction and a much better way for Ceasefire to utilize it's resources instead of demonstrating outside gunshops (which does absolutely nothing to reduce crime).

    Maybe they're going to make an effort to address the real issues.

    A Show of Neighborhood Force

    Hill had been arrested four times while on parole, three of them for illegal weapons.
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    Three years ago, based on analysis of thousands of cases, The Inquirer reported that Philadelphia had the nationís lowest conviction rate for violent felonies.
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    In Philadelphia in 2010, the most recent year for which statistics are available, almost two-thirds of defendants convicted of carrying illegal guns were sentenced to probation or a minimum sentence of fewer than 10 months in prison.


    And another article; Cities fighting crime could use more help

    The Violent Crime Reduction Partnership represents an unprecedented level of cooperation, according to Deputy Mayor Everett Gillison. The theory behind the project is that a small number of Philadelphians commit a large number of crimes.
    The partnership has identified the cityís top troublemakers and is going after them.




    Let's hope Ceasefire realizes that prosecuting criminals is far more effective than antagonizing legitimate business and gun owners.










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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    CeaseFirePA wants all guns destroyed. Always know that. Never stop thinking and knowing that!
    They have lost the battles and the war, now they are trying to stay afloat.

    Keep them down and always stay vigilant!
    NRA Training Counselor, Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Benefactor Member



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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Holy crap. You mean they are actually doing something that's been proven time and time again to be effective??

    Finally. That's only what we've been suggesting for EVER.

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Oh no worries, I don't trust Ceasefire in any way, shape or form.
    But I'm hoping if they find something productive to do with their time they'll leave me and mine alone.

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    I've been on this forum for awhile and %99.9 of the time all I do is read the forums that I find interesting and keep my opinions to myself.but I have really fuckin had it with the term Illegal guns....................wtf..........if a tv is stolen is it illegal?...no if a car is stolen is it illegal no? Then why use the term illegal gun....................stop fuckin using it...........................OK I feel better now...................off my soapbox.....................Dave

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    "illegal gun" is just another vague term coined by the anti-gun zealots. Kind of like "cop killer bullets", "easy availability of guns" The list goes on, and I have no more time, i'm going out to buy a saturday night special.

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    i'm going out to buy a saturday night special.
    Please wait until Saturday.

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Quote Originally Posted by cgk View Post
    Please wait until Saturday.
    Yes, I do not want the anti-gun rhetoric machine starting anything regarding a thursday night instrument of death.

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Quote Originally Posted by birdhunter317 View Post
    I've been on this forum for awhile and %99.9 of the time all I do is read the forums that I find interesting and keep my opinions to myself.but I have really fuckin had it with the term Illegal guns....................wtf..........if a tv is stolen is it illegal?...no if a car is stolen is it illegal no? Then why use the term illegal gun....................stop fuckin using it...........................OK I feel better now...................off my soapbox.....................Dave

    My thoughts, for what it's worth...

    -a gun purchased or obtained without going through an FFL (illegal)
    -a gun that is obtained and carried by a prohibited person (illegal)

    It seems perfectly logical to me to refer to said guns as illegal. There are lots of illegal guns on the streets of Philadelphia. Anti-gun people typically think that the solution to their problem is breaking balls for legal gun owners (people who buy through FFLs and get background checks). If the Phila DA's office and organizations like Ceasefire are committed to going after illegal guns I don't really give a shit what they decide to call them. I prefer that they make a distinction between us and them.


    I wasn't referring to stolen guns. When I refer to stolen guns I call them stolen guns.
    If you have a term that you prefer to describe these particular firearms let me know what it is and I'll be happy to use that term instead.

    Since the sale of televisions and cars is conducted without criminal background checks I can't really see a connection.
    Are you equally disturbed by the term illegal alien?

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    Default Re: Philly and CeasefirePA finally moving in the right direction

    Darn, from the title, i thought maybe they were going to hell....

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