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July 21st, 2012, 09:22 PM #1Active Member
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ar-15 pistol build
was looking for a recent thread and could not find one , bought a new stripped lower today,I was asked if I was going to build it into a rifle or pistol. I always thought you could build it any way you wanted short of s.b.r. or machine-gun he said it would change my paper work on how I was going to build it . any insight would be helpful thanks.
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July 21st, 2012, 10:34 PM #2
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Stripped lower should always be registered as a "receiver". It does not become a pistol until you configure it as a pistol. It does not become a "rifle" until you configure it as such.
If you register it as a "rifle" it can never become a "pistol" but a registered "pistol" can become a "rifle" or "SBR".
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July 22nd, 2012, 06:18 AM #3Active Member
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Re: ar-15 pistol build
It was sold to me as a receiver , can I build it into a pistol?
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July 22nd, 2012, 07:07 AM #4
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Actually, the state paperwork does NOT trump the Federal (NFA) definitions. You can buy that receiver and treat it as a pistol receiver or a rifle receiver at the time of sale, but it doesn't become a "rifle" for Federal purposes until it's barreled. (This assumes that you're building for personal use.)
It used to be that ATF considered it "once a rifle, always a rifle", so that after you assembled it as a rifle you could never go back to a pistol without filing a Form 1 and registering it as an NFA SBR. But they recently relented on that, and if it "started" as a pistol, it can become a rifle and then go back to a pistol. But if it started as a rifle, then it can never become a Title 1 pistol.
The paperwork shouldn't refer to a stripped receiver as having any barrel length, because that would be untrue. If it's just a receiver, do whatever paperwork makes the FFL happy, you don't foreclose your future assembly options until a barrel and perhaps a buttstock is attached (or grouped with the receiver and associated sufficiently for it to be constructive possession).Last edited by GunLawyer001; July 22nd, 2012 at 12:19 PM.
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July 22nd, 2012, 07:59 AM #5Active Member
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Re: ar-15 pistol build
so I can build it into a pistol with it transferred to me as a receiver ? did not fill out paper work to have it registered as a pistol.
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July 22nd, 2012, 08:19 AM #6
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Had the same FFL transfer a stripped receiver w/o the SP4-113 paper, then filled out the SP4-113 paper for my next stripped receiver transfer. They told me they made a mistake on the first transfer, and if I assembled a pistol with that stripped receiver, without 'registering' it first, I would be committing a felony.
I know, I need to stop posting and get a lawyer.
Well, my other receiver has a 16'' upper on it.
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July 22nd, 2012, 08:20 AM #7
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July 22nd, 2012, 08:30 AM #8Active Member
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thats a little confusing , so I can build a pistol and not be breaking any laws ,if not I will pick up another one and fill out the paper work for a pistol
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July 22nd, 2012, 08:41 AM #9
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Re: ar-15 pistol build
still not totally understanding the law on the subject of the build I want to do
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