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    Unhappy Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    I am in need of someone that has been reloading the .45 acp for a while and knows alot of the little things. I am new to it and having a hell of a time getting 200gr LSWC to not lead my barrel. I have loaded 217 rounds and none have been what i expect, so i figured i try and find someone close to home that can give me some advice. thanks M&PEE
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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    1.What Manufacture's bullett are you using? or are you casting your own?
    2. Your loading a Lead Semi-Wad-Cutter, expect lead in your barrell and
    you need a Lewis Lead Remover for ease of cleaning.(Brownnells)
    3. Check Youtube for a Lewis Lead Remover demostration.
    This should be a good start to assist you for now.
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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    most leading comes from from the lead hardness not matched to how fast or slow you want to push the bullet.
    some lead in the barrel is to be expected, but it should be lite and easily removed.

    you want to push lead fast, you need harder lead
    powder puff loads need a softer lead mix.
    try pushing soft lead fast, you're going to have a mess in the barrel.
    try running hard lead in soft loads, and you can still get leading in the barrel.
    a general rule of thumb is to not push lead faster than 1k feet a second.
    45auto is the perfect cartridge for lead as most loads are either well under the 1k mark or right around it.
    all i shoot in 45acp is lead. in addition too shooting mostly lead in all other pistol calibers i dabble in.
    Last edited by brian; July 8th, 2012 at 06:40 PM.
    it's only metal, we can out think it....

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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    What gun are you shooting these reloads out of?

    Who made the bullets?

    Are you using the OEM barrel or aftermarket?

    What load are you using? How much powder, what OAL?

    Have you chrono'ed any of these rounds?

    And are you sure it is leading that you are seeing, and not just dirty powder etc.?
    The problem with shooting Chinese bullets is 15 minutes later you wanna shoot again.

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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    Bullets: all 200gr lswc. s&s (jersey) 18 bhn, missouri 12bhn

    Powder: win 231, clays
    231: charges from 4.2 to 5.5

    clays: charge 4.0 to 4.2, didnt play too much with this due to the tight min. max.

    c.ol. 1.200 to 1.250 ( started @1.200 and progressed to 1.250)

    neck: .469 +/- .001

    mixed range brass

    Fed. 150 lg pistol primers.


    Gun: "new" S&W E-series 1911 only lead has been shot through this barrel.

    The barrel is definately "leading" not powder etc. as for leaving trace leading know that will happen but this is a 30min. cleaning job with hoppes and or butch's. I ran batch's of say 10 rounds with different charge weight and c.o.l. until I tried 220 rounds of what i figured was almost every combo i could come up with, so any recipe you have may help, I can definately compare it to my notes and see if i have been there or it is close enough to try. ( im not a total newb, i know not to take outlandish recipes and throw them on my press and go) This is why I am asking for the experience of our tried and true, been doing it forever reloaders. I have to be missing something. I load 9mm plated w/o any issues and i know i can throw the same type together for my 1911 but i gotta get this...thanks in advance too all willing to lend a hand.
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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    For cleaning lead out of your barrel, get some "Chore Boy" copper scrubbing pads at the store. Cut a piece of the copper strands of, wrap it around your brush, and run through a couple times. The copper is harder than the lead but softer than your barrel.
    Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

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    Default Re: Need an experienced 45 ACP realoader

    Brian is spot on.

    I've seen light loads lead like crazy because the chamber pressure is not high enough to obturate the base of the lead bullet enough. It allows hot gasses to "blow by" the bullet, melting the lead.

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