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July 1st, 2012, 12:24 AM #1Active Member
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Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
My sister-in-law is an amputee, with other medical issues, and uses a powered wheelchair or a powered scooter to go around the neighborhood or to some nearby stores. Would someone in her position need an LTCF even to open carry if they were going cruising around their neighborhood or going to the store on their powered wheelchair or scooter?
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July 1st, 2012, 04:45 AM #2
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
IANAL but, the state defines a vehical as:
"Every device in, upon or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except devices used exclusively upon rails or tracks. The term does not include self-propelled wheelchair or an electrical mobility device operated by and designed for the exclusive of a person with a mobility-related disability."Last edited by Quigar57; July 1st, 2012 at 04:47 AM. Reason: Spelling
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July 1st, 2012, 10:23 AM #3
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
Probably not as mentioned above. But for $20, the LTCF will offer some peace of mind.
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July 1st, 2012, 11:05 AM #4
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
And keep in mind, I suspect she gets rides via a program like Centre Ride in State College or from a private source. Would definitely advise the LTCF because she really may want to carry at all times (SOE as another example).
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July 1st, 2012, 03:19 PM #5Grand Member
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Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
Wrong definition.
When a definition for a word is not found in the current chapter one must use the "parent" chapter for definition.
When a definition for a word is not found in the current title one must use the "parent" title for definition.
In that case since chapter 61 of title 18 does not define vehicle, and chapter 1 of title 18 does not define vehicle, then one must use the definition from title 1.
Title 75 would not be the valid definition unless title 18 chapter 61 directly referenced it.
1 Pa.C.S.A. § 1991. Definitions
The following words and phrases, when used in any statute finally enacted on or after September 1, 1937, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, shall have the meanings given to them in this section:
"Vehicle." A conveyance in or on which persons or property may be carried.
Yes, she needs a license.
ETA:Last edited by kadar; July 2nd, 2012 at 11:05 AM. Reason: clarification
The 2A does not GIVE us the right. It tells the gov they can not INFRINGE our right.
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July 1st, 2012, 09:54 PM #6Junior Member
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Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
People have been known to get DUIs for riding around in their power wheelchair drunk. I certainly would not carry in a wheelchair without a LTCF.
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July 1st, 2012, 11:01 PM #7
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
For the cost of the LTCF get it and be coverd IANAL but i do belive she needs a LTCF
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July 2nd, 2012, 09:00 AM #8
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
She lives in Lacka. County, she will be in and out of the Sheriffs office in 30 minutes, have her get the LTCF.
Government 99 and 44/100 % pure bullshit.
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July 2nd, 2012, 09:10 AM #9
Re: Powered wheelchair/scooter question.
Even if it's not considered a vehicle for purposes of carrying a firearm, she still needs to worry about things like the declared state of emergency, carrying within 1000' of a school, carrying in Philadelphia, and the possibility of the firearm being considered "concealed" if it is at all obstructed from view. Anyone who owns guns in PA should really have a LTCF.
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July 2nd, 2012, 11:11 AM #10
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