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    Question ID and carry questions

    Are peace officers allowed to ask for ID if you are open carrying? If so is the LTCF good enough? Do they have the right to take your gun off of you when interviewing you? Do they have the right to check your weapon if you are carrying concealed, or if you tell them you are carrying, is showing the LTCF good enough? If a LEO stops you because someone is ignorant of PA law and reported "a man with a gun"; maliciously finishing his final for developmental psychology on his own porch what should someone do in that situation? Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    Well you should probably read the stickies at the top of the thread first. As far as open carrying you are not required to show any id at all unless you are being LAWFULLY (key word there) detained. Even then you only need to give your name dob and address.

    If you are carrying concealed then a LTCF will be sufficient.

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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    But this was so much quicker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachera View Post
    If a LEO stops you because someone is ignorant of PA law and reported "a man with a gun"; maliciously finishing his final for developmental psychology on his own porch what should someone do in that situation? Thanks in advance
    Did someone make a MWAG call because you were bearing arms on your OWN porch while working on your final for developmental psychology?

    If this is the case I would tell the LEO to leave my property immediately unless I am under arrest or they have a search warrant.

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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    Quote Originally Posted by zoanemesis View Post
    Well you should probably read the stickies at the top of the thread first. As far as open carrying you are not required to show any id at all unless you are being LAWFULLY (key word there) detained. Even then you only need to give your name dob and address.

    If you are carrying concealed then a LTCF will be sufficient.
    He's not in Philly, but don't forget we are in a State of Emergency right now. Open carry is only legal with a LTCF (or meeting another exception), and the LTCF mus be produced upon "lawful demand" (or at a preliminary hearing).

    As for producing or giving ID, I'm aware of no law in PA requiring that you identify yourself to an officer in any way. (Although the point is moot if you're required to show a license for another reason, like carrying or driving).
    I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.

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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    The officer can ASK anyhing at all. (I asked for a pony when I was five years old) But, unless he has RAS for a Terry stop, you can refuse to participate in the "mere encounter" and just walk away. Before you walk you might say something like "Officer, I am not aware that you have any reason to bellieve I am involved in any crime. If that is so then this is a mere encounter and I am not being detained. If that is correct then I am leaving to go about my lawful business. Have a good day and be careful out there." Then leave unless he puts his hands on you or says you are being detained/arrested.

    My favorite TV lines: Law and Order's Det.Lennie Brisko to a Mafia wiseguy. "If you don't answer my questions I am going to be very suspicious of you." Wiseguy "So, suspect me!!

    Blue Bloods detective. A person of interest just told the two detectives to go fly a kite when they wanted to see what was on his laptop computer. He walked off in a huff. Det #1 "Now there is a guy who knows his rights." Det #2 "Yeah, I hate it when that happens."

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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    Quote Originally Posted by twency View Post
    He's not in Philly, but don't forget we are in a State of Emergency right now. Open carry is only legal with a LTCF (or meeting another exception), and the LTCF mus be produced upon "lawful demand" (or at a preliminary hearing).

    As for producing or giving ID, I'm aware of no law in PA requiring that you identify yourself to an officer in any way. (Although the point is moot if you're required to show a license for another reason, like carrying or driving).
    SoE or not, he was on his own property, I didn't think SoE meant you still needed it while on your own property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    SoE or not, he was on his own property, I didn't think SoE meant you still needed it while on your own property.
    Correct. SoE prohibition (6107) only applies to public streets/property.
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    Default Re: ID and carry questions

    What is "Developmental Psychology"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington788 View Post
    What is "Developmental Psychology"?
    Studying the psychological development of humans from infancy to late adulthood.

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