Modern 7.62x25

[cruzans]

Looking for any feedback on why I should not build a modern 7.62x25. The more I read about the round, and the more I shoot my Tokarev's - I really want to put together a "modern" 7.62x25. I want it for fun, not for primary carry, or anything else other than fun. My plans are to pick up one of those black Taurus 1911 38 Supers - you know the flashy one with gold trim for $399 new - then buy the 7.62x25 conversion kit ( barrel, bushing, etc. ) for $189 and have my self a new toy. My only concern has been I have tried to load 7.62x25 in some of my current 38 Super magazines, and they are a bit tight ?? The company selling the conversion kit say they have a 38 Super magazine for $15 that works perfectly, so maybe I'd pick that up with the kit? Besides someone just not liking the 7.62x25 - anything you can think of that would change my mind of doing ?

[Thomas Paine]

do it! what part of the 7.62 fits tight in the .38 super mag? the length of the cartridge? it is 1.5mm longer.

[cruzans]

do it! what part of the 7.62 fits tight in the .38 super mag? the length of the cartridge? it is 1.5mm longer.

Yes, the lenght. It is very tight. Hopefully, when I decide to order everything, and I get the magazine they recommend, it is a good fit.

[LifeInPa]

How many Tok's can you fit into one of those .38 Super mags? The only issue other than mag capacity is I hear some gunsmithing is required to get the conversion to work, it's not a simple swap of a barrel. I believe Cheaper than Dirt or one of the major websites offer to install the barrel. It's something I want to do someday to a cheap RIA since like you I love the Tokarev round.

[Thomas Paine]

upon more research, it looks like people are only getting 4-6 rounds in the recommended .38 super mags. not good.

if you had a 9mm largo, or a 9x23, well then.......but that would defeat your purpose of a modern 1911 in 7.62x25.

if you have a file, lots of time, and 2mm to spare inside the mag, then maybe you could go somewhere with this, but otherwise it looks kinda bleak.

[SCBaldr]

I've been wishing that Glock or HK would build a single stack, 4" barreled, slim frame double action pistol in 7.62 x 25 for years now. I also wish Sig would convert a P239 or a P225 for the Tokarev round too.

[LifeInPa]

I would love to see CZ make a modern, double stacked, striker fired Tokarev pistol. Such a pistol with the cheap but potent surplus ammo has win written all over it.

[cruzans]

Here's what J&G says about the conversion kit :

This is an exclusive J&G Sales custom barrel conversion kit that will change a Government model 1911 in 9mm or 38 Super to use 7.62x25 ammunition. This kit comes with a custom 5 inch stainless steel barrel, link, pin, and bushing.

The requirements for the conversion are as follows: Your 9mm or 38Super Government model 1911 must have a non-ramped frame (such as Colt, Rock Island, Taurus) and also requires the use of a 38Super magazine, which will accept 4-8 rounds of surplus or commercial ammunition. The barrel and bushings may require minimal fitting. Does not work on 45ACP guns.

I was able to get 6 rounds into my RIA 38 Super mags, but it wasn't easy. I can live with 6 or 7 rounds if they go in fairly easy, but not 4. hmmmmm, I'm torn ! How about you guys all send me $20 and I'll be the guinea pig

[Valorius]

Looking for any feedback on why I should not build a modern 7.62x25. The more I read about the round, and the more I shoot my Tokarev's - I really want to put together a "modern" 7.62x25. I want it for fun, not for primary carry, or anything else other than fun. My plans are to pick up one of those black Taurus 1911 38 Supers - you know the flashy one with gold trim for $399 new - then buy the 7.62x25 conversion kit ( barrel, bushing, etc. ) for $189 and have my self a new toy. My only concern has been I have tried to load 7.62x25 in some of my current 38 Super magazines, and they are a bit tight ?? The company selling the conversion kit say they have a 38 Super magazine for $15 that works perfectly, so maybe I'd pick that up with the kit? Besides someone just not liking the 7.62x25 - anything you can think of that would change my mind of doing ?

I think that would be a very cool project.

Do it!

Edit: Hmm, the mag capacity thing is concerning. Buy a Five SeveN instead. LOL...

[cruzans]

I think that would be a very cool project.

Do it!

Edit: Hmm, the mag capacity thing is concerning. Buy a Five SeveN instead. LOL...

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a good 7.62x25 thread/question - lol. Five SeveN huh, never knew you liked them - double lol
I'll let everyone know if I go for it - I am very tempted. Of course, I just bought another old lemon squeezer (32) tonight so I blew some more money after just picking up a lemon squeezer (38) and Beretta Tomcat, and a S&W 64-3 in the past week!