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April 29th, 2012, 06:13 PM #1
So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
First off I have a bunch of Glocks including 3 G17's, 2 2nd gens and 1 3rd gen so I have experiance with some of the issues in the 3rd gen gun.
I keep hearing and reading about the extraction issues in the newer Glocks and I also experiance eractic ejection in my 3rd gen gun and it's not a new one with the dip extractor, it's a 2004 production. Here's my take on what the issue is and it's a simple fix for Glock. Get rid of the LCI extractor and go back to the non LCI, the 336 ejector is fine also and does not need replaced. Get rid of the new recoil spring in the gen 4 as well, the single one worked fine.
I have yet to have any brass even come close to hitting me when shooting my gen 2 guns, and although my gen3 has been 100% reliable it does eject brass at the shooter on occasion. I have also swapped the non LCI extractor from my gen2 and put it in the gen3 and the issue went away.
Here's a couple pics of what the differance is. From left to right, 3rd gen slide, 2nd gen slide and 2nd gen slide with 90* cut. If you notice the 3rd gen angle on the extractor compared to the other 2, that IMO is what causes eratic ejection due to the angle compared to the other 2 which have no angle.
2nd gen pic, see how nice and square the extractor is.
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April 29th, 2012, 06:18 PM #2
Re: So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
A friend of mine has a Gen2 G17, and another has a G3 G17, and watching them shoot side by side at an indoor range, you can definitely see the difference in the extraction. The Gen2 throws the brass almost directly over the right shoulder, almost no arc as it leaves the pistol. The Gen3 throws at a relatively high arc and more directly to the right. My Gen3 G19 throws almost directly to the right at about the same arc as my friends G3.
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April 29th, 2012, 06:21 PM #3
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April 29th, 2012, 06:35 PM #4
Re: So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
On the left is a Gen3 26 and the right is a Gen3 19, and it looks like different extractors in them too. I haven't shot the 26 very much to really notice where it throws.
Last edited by streaker69; April 29th, 2012 at 07:20 PM.
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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April 29th, 2012, 06:40 PM #5
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April 29th, 2012, 06:43 PM #6
Re: So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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April 29th, 2012, 06:52 PM #7
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April 29th, 2012, 07:03 PM #8
Re: So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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April 29th, 2012, 07:09 PM #9
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April 29th, 2012, 07:13 PM #10
Re: So Glock do you want to fix the issues with the Gen3 and Gen4 9mm guns, simple
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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