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    Default Corrupt organizations....Pagans?

    Can a full member of the Pagans get a LTCF ? Can they buy a Firearm in PA ?

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    Merely a social club aka fraternity that enjoys motorcycles. Why shouldn't they be able as long as they meet the current standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exbiker View Post
    Merely a social club aka fraternity that enjoys motorcycles. Why shouldn't they be able as long as they meet the current standards.

    Well the gov. may have a different perspective given their historical criminal activity. The word GANG comes to mind.

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    Alot of the members that I know or knew in the past would have had no problem getting their ltcf.
    Being a part of an orginazation dosen't automaticly perclude you from getting one.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    Alot of the members that I know or knew in the past would have had no problem getting their ltcf.
    Being a part of an orginazation dosen't automaticly perclude you from getting one.
    The ones that I knew got 15 to 20 in a federal pen for trafficing in firearms, which is one of their well known money makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exbiker View Post
    Merely a social club aka fraternity that enjoys motorcycles. Why shouldn't they be able as long as they meet the current standards.
    A social club like MS-13 or the Gambinos ? The question is are the Pagans considered a corrupt organization under PA law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinevet26 View Post
    A social club like MS-13 or the Gambinos ? The question is are the Pagans considered a corrupt organization under PA law.
    A question for a different area of the internet maybe? This is a gun forum.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinevet26 View Post
    A social club like MS-13 or the Gambinos ? The question is are the Pagans considered a corrupt organization under PA law.
    Can you please cite the statutory definition of "corrupt organization" in PA, as well as citing how being a known member of such an organization is a disqualifier for owning and/or possessing/carrying firearms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    Can you please cite the statutory definition of "corrupt organization" in PA, as well as citing how being a known member of such an organization is a disqualifier for owning and/or possessing/carrying firearms?
    I'm not sure about the statutory definition of a corrupt organization, but you know how the sheriffs are, if they knew you were a member, they could disqualify you on the reputation clause.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Ask and you shall receive.

    § 911. Corrupt organizations.
    (a) Findings of fact.--The General Assembly finds that:
    (1) organized crime is a highly sophisticated,
    diversified, and widespread phenomenon which annually drains
    billions of dollars from the national economy by various
    patterns of unlawful conduct including the illegal use of
    force, fraud, and corruption;
    (2) organized crime exists on a large scale within the
    Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, engaging in the same patterns
    of unlawful conduct which characterize its activities
    nationally;
    (3) the vast amounts of money and power accumulated by
    organized crime are increasingly used to infiltrate and
    corrupt legitimate businesses operating within the
    Commonwealth, together with all of the techniques of
    violence, intimidation, and other forms of unlawful conduct
    through which such money and power are derived;
    (4) in furtherance of such infiltration and corruption,
    organized crime utilizes and applies to its unlawful purposes
    laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania conferring and
    relating to the privilege of engaging in various types of
    business and designed to insure that such businesses are
    conducted in furtherance of the public interest and the
    general economic welfare of the Commonwealth;
    (5) such infiltration and corruption provide an outlet
    for illegally obtained capital, harm innocent investors,
    entrepreneurs, merchants and consumers, interfere with free
    competition, and thereby constitute a substantial danger to
    the economic and general welfare of the Commonwealth of
    Pennsylvania; and
    (6) in order to successfully resist and eliminate this
    situation, it is necessary to provide new remedies and
    procedures.
    (b) Prohibited activities.--
    (1) It shall be unlawful for any person who has received
    any income derived, directly or indirectly, from a pattern of
    racketeering activity in which such person participated as a
    principal, to use or invest, directly or indirectly, any part
    of such income, or the proceeds of such income, in the
    acquisition of any interest in, or the establishment or
    operation of, any enterprise: Provided, however, That a
    purchase of securities on the open market for purposes of
    investment, and without the intention of controlling or
    participating in the control of the issuer, or of assisting
    another to do so, shall not be unlawful under this subsection
    if the securities of the issue held by the purchaser, the
    members of his immediate family, and his or their accomplices
    in any pattern of racketeering activity after such purchase,
    do not amount in the aggregate to 1% of the outstanding
    securities of any one class, and do not confer, either in law
    or in fact, the power to elect one or more directors of the
    issuer: Provided, further, That if, in any proceeding
    involving an alleged investment in violation of this
    subsection, it is established that over half of the
    defendant's aggregate income for a period of two or more
    years immediately preceding such investment was derived from
    a pattern of racketeering activity, a rebuttable presumption
    shall arise that such investment included income derived from
    such pattern of racketeering activity.
    (2) It shall be unlawful for any person through a
    pattern of racketeering activity to acquire or maintain,
    directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any
    enterprise.
    (3) It shall be unlawful for any person employed by or
    associated with any enterprise to conduct or participate,
    directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprise's
    affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity.
    (4) It shall be unlawful for any person to conspire to
    violate any of the provisions of paragraphs (1), (2) or (3)
    of this subsection.
    (c) Grading.--Whoever violates any provision of subsection
    (b) of this section is guilty of a felony of the first degree. A
    violation of this subsection shall be deemed to continue so long
    as the person who committed the violation continues to receive
    any benefit from the violation.
    (d) Civil remedies.--
    (1) The several courts of common pleas, and the
    Commonwealth Court, shall have jurisdiction to prevent and
    restrain violations of subsection (b) of this section by
    issuing appropriate orders, including but not limited to:
    (i) ordering any person to divest himself of any
    interest direct or indirect, in the enterprise; imposing
    reasonable restrictions on the future activities or
    investments of any person, including but not limited to,
    prohibiting any person from engaging in the same type of
    endeavor as the enterprise engaged in; and
    (ii) making due provision for the rights of innocent
    persons, ordering the dissolution of the enterprise,
    ordering the denial, suspension or revocation of charters
    of domestic corporations, certificates of authority
    authorizing foreign corporations to do business within
    the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, licenses, permits, or
    prior approval granted to any enterprise by any
    department or agency of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania;
    or prohibiting the enterprise from engaging in any
    business.
    (2) In any proceeding under this subsection, the court
    shall proceed as soon as practicable to the hearing and
    determination thereof. Pending final determination, the court
    may enter preliminary or special injunctions, or take such
    other actions, including the acceptance of satisfactory
    performance bonds, as it may deem proper.
    (3) A final judgment or decree rendered in favor of the
    Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in any criminal proceeding under
    this section shall estop the defendant from denying the
    essential allegations of the criminal offense in any
    subsequent civil proceeding under this subsection.
    (4) Proceedings under this subsection, at pretrial,
    trial and appellate levels, shall be governed by the
    Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure and all other rules and
    procedures relating to civil actions, except to the extent
    inconsistent with the provisions of this section.
    (e) Enforcement.--
    (1) The Attorney General shall have the power and duty
    to enforce the provisions of this section, including the
    authority to issue civil investigative demands pursuant to
    subsection (f), institute proceedings under subsection (d),
    and to take such actions as may be necessary to ascertain and
    investigate alleged violations of this section.
    (2) The Attorney General and the district attorneys of
    the several counties shall have concurrent authority to
    institute criminal proceedings under the provisions of this
    section.
    (3) Nothing contained in this subsection shall be
    construed to limit the regulatory or investigative authority
    of any department or agency of the Commonwealth whose
    functions might relate to persons, enterprises, or matters
    falling within the scope of this section.
    (f) Civil investigative demand.--
    (1) Whenever the Attorney General has reason to believe
    that any person or enterprise may be in possession, custody,
    or control of any documentary material relevant to a
    racketeering investigation, he may issue in writing, and
    cause to be served upon such person or enterprise, a civil
    investigative demand requiring the production of such
    material for examination.
    (2) Each such demand shall:
    (i) state the nature of the conduct constituting the
    alleged racketeering violation which is under
    investigation, the provision of law applicable thereto
    and the connection between the documentary material
    demanded and the conduct under investigation;
    (ii) describe the class or classes of documentary
    material to be produced thereunder with such definiteness
    and certainty as to permit such material to be fairly
    identified;
    (iii) state that the demand is returnable forthwith
    or prescribe a return date which will provide a
    reasonable period of time within which the material so
    demanded may be assembled and made available for
    inspection and copying or reproduction;
    (iv) identify a racketeering investigator to whom
    such material shall be made available; and
    (v) contain the following statement printed
    conspicuously at the top of the demand: "You have the
    right to seek the assistance of any attorney and he may
    represent you in all phases of the racketeering
    investigation of which this civil investigative demand is
    a part."
    (3) No such demand shall:
    (i) contain any requirement which would be held to
    be unreasonable if contained in a subpoena duces tecum
    issued by any court in connection with a grand jury
    investigation of such alleged racketeering violation; or
    (ii) require the production of any documentary
    evidence which would be privileged from disclosure if
    demanded by a subpoena duces tecum issued by any court in
    connection with a grand jury investigation of such
    alleged racketeering violation.
    (4) Service of any such demand or any petition filed
    under this subsection shall be made in the manner prescribed
    by the Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure for service of
    writs and complaints.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

    "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato

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