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January 13th, 2012, 11:08 PM #21
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
Poor victims. Being held down while people poured copious amounts of booze down their throats. People should know that they would be violent, and could be shot at in self defense. And how dare someone fight back. Lets face it, he was outnumbered. There was no need for a gun.
I'm so fast, I can bump fire a bolt action.
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January 14th, 2012, 01:29 AM #22
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
Fair enough, I understood your point to begin with. I pointed out how the bars would of been wasting their money if they wanted to stop a case like this. In addition, I have yet to see where the scanners have made a difference in deterring/stopping civil complaints or insurance payouts or change case outcomes. I will concede I'm not a practicing (plaintiff/defense/insurance) lawyer and don't handle these cases everyday, but I have some of degree knowledge of the major case law on liquor liability, and have seen on what plaintiffs win on and what defendants win on.
Those under 21 can be quite sophisticated at getting into bars, and it seems the ID scanners aren't too much of a hassle to them. Many have real ID's that they have gotten from someone over 21 or have fakes that are really sophisticated and have the information on the black strip or bar code and thus appear real to the scanner. Many places that utilize the scanners don't even bother checking the information or picture on the card. I have overheard many (I don't claim all) under 21 saying that they have a real ID (or a sophisticated 'fake') that they got from somewhere.
Maybe my point is too, at the end of the day, no matter what you do, as Gunlawyer001 always points out, it takes a relatively small sum to file the civil compliant at the court house. Whether they win a trial or receive a settlement is a completely different story. Many don't want to take responsibility for what they do. Take Eddie, for example.Last edited by Mosinshooter762; January 14th, 2012 at 01:58 AM.
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January 14th, 2012, 01:57 AM #23
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January 14th, 2012, 02:10 AM #24
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January 15th, 2012, 08:43 AM #25
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
Another ride on the slippery slope of justice begins. Who says that sn!t can't flow uphill and it stinks regardless.
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January 15th, 2012, 09:08 AM #26
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
Last edited by uniballin; January 15th, 2012 at 09:10 AM.
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January 15th, 2012, 10:31 AM #27
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
This happened last night, a few blocks from Ung's incident, and one of the defendants in this case is also mentioned...
Man, 23, dies after savage attack in Old City
In an attack as brutal as it was senseless, a 23-year-old man was dead Saturday night after being beaten by three men near Independence Hall early in the morning, police said.
The killing stemmed from a misunderstanding over a hailed cab, investigators said.
About 2:30 a.m., in the bustle of an Old City weekend night, the victim, whose name police did not immediately release Saturday, was walking with two female friends on Chestnut Street near Fourth Street - the trio having just left Lucy's Hat Shop Restaurant & Lounge a few blocks away.
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January 15th, 2012, 12:10 PM #28
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
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January 15th, 2012, 12:57 PM #29
Re: So it begins: Gerald Ung & 5 Bars Being Sued in Civil Court
Keep perspective, recognize the good in your enemies and the bad in your friends.
"--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein, Revolt in 2100
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