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    Default Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Got this email today from Kim, Note what AG laws they just got in NJ and are now trying to get in PA ,one way or other.
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    Check out the .50 caliber link and the presumptions of action that needs to be taken.
    http://www.50caliberterror.com/

    Kim Stolfer

    (412) 221-3346, Home Phone
    (412) 257-1099, Home Fax
    (412) 352-5018, Cell

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    From: ceasefirenj@googlegroups.com [mailto:ceasefirenj@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CeaseFire NJ
    Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:40 AM
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    Subject: Ceasefire NJ News and Opinion: Success for Safety!


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    Ceasefire NJ News & Opinion: Success for Safety!

    Friends of Ceasefire NJ :


    Yes, Ceasefire NJ has again led the nation in achieving meaningful improvements in gun regulation! Strengthening gun laws, per Ceasefire NJ 's recent success, will make the Garden State 's communities safer from the scourge of gun violence. And, we believe we will achieve even more in '08! But, in order to make our state's villages, towns and cities safer from gun violence, Ceasefire NJ must gain your kind support. Please donate today, using the button at the bottom of this email. Do it for you, your family's and your neighbors' sake.
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    The Good News: Governor Signs Four New Gun Bills!



    Following the close of a hectic legislative 'lame duck' session, Governor Jon Corzine signed four new gun bills into law last week. The ideas for these bills were broached by Ceasefire NJ (CFNJ) with the Governor's Policy Staff and Attorney General Anne Milgram last summer. CFNJ collaborated closely with the Governor's and AG's staffs to move the bills, testified in front of the relevant NJ Senate and Assembly committees, gained the help of Mayors Booker of Newark and Healy of Jersey City and worked with the Leadership of both houses to ensure the bills were passed during 'lame duck.'



    Specifically, the bills were:


    ~S-2431/A-3035: Makes illegal possession in public of a firearm a 2nd degree crime (formerly 3rd degree);

    ~S-2934/A-4620/A-541: Requires owners to report lost or stolen firearms;

    ~S-2932/A2697: Makes trafficking guns into NJ a 2nd degree crime (formerly no specific crime for interstate trafficking in NJ); and

    ~S-2470/A-2602: Requires purchasers of handgun ammunition to provide proof of having passed state handgun background check.



    These new laws are important means to make it less likely handguns will go from legal sale at gun shops to illegal street sale, to deter and punish those who would seek to profit from the illegal trafficking of handguns into our state or who carry those illegal handguns, and to severely reduce the ease of access gangs currently enjoy to handgun ammunition.



    CFNJ has already met with the AG's Legislative Affairs staff to work on making further progress in the New Year. We expect to collaborate on spring passage of bills to limit individuals to the purchase of no more than a single handgun in any thirty-day period (One Handgun A Month) and to ban massively destructive .50 Caliber weapons (see www.50CaliberTerror.com). http://www.50caliberterror.com/ We are highly optimistic of success, especially as we believe legislative leaders share our goals. We will also work with the AG's and Governor's staffs to educate legislators, staffs, media and public about microstamping technology for firearms, in order to gain passage of relevant legislation this fall.



    CFNJ plans to work, as well, with the NJ League of Municipalities on a menu of potential firearm regulations available to cities and towns to enable them to cut into the movement of illegal guns to their streets.



    CFNJ is a prime mover in the emerging campaign in Pennsylvania to strengthen that state's incredibly weak gun laws. In our view, and confirmed by abundant evidence, PA's weak gun laws encourage the interstate trafficking of illegal guns that devastates NJ's communities (75% of crime guns recovered and traced in NJ were originally purchased out-of-state and brought here, PA being the top external source state). CFNJ was a co-founder of and is an active participant in the PATH (Pennsylvanians Against Trafficking Handguns) Coalition (see www.PATHCoalition.org ). Gun violence prevention, for the first time ever, has become a major public issue in PA, thanks to CFNJ's, our colleague organization, CeaseFire PA's and PATH's efforts.


    CFNJ is proud of the leading role it takes in the Garden State , regionally and nationally. We see '08 as an important year of opportunity, especially in raising further the issue of illegal guns, gaining new state and municipal firearm regulation in NJ and gaining new gun violence prevention traction in PA. We are highly optimistic about our role in creating change toward safer communities.



    But, we can only pursue safety with your help. Please donate generously using the below. Thank you.



    DONATE NOW and help support Ceasefire NJ 's continuing efforts

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFeather View Post
    CFNJ is a prime mover in the emerging campaign in Pennsylvania to strengthen that state's incredibly weak gun laws. In our view, and confirmed by abundant evidence, PA's weak gun laws encourage the interstate trafficking of illegal guns that devastates NJ's communities (75% of crime guns recovered and traced in NJ were originally purchased out-of-state and brought here, PA being the top external source state). CFNJ was a co-founder of and is an active participant in the PATH (Pennsylvanians Against Trafficking Handguns) Coalition (see www.PATHCoalition.org ). Gun violence prevention, for the first time ever, has become a major public issue in PA, thanks to CFNJ's, our colleague organization, CeaseFire PA's and PATH's efforts.
    But of course the criminals doing this are total victims of the laxed PA gun laws that they don't follow anyway. Criminals don't do anything wrong in the eyes of a liberal... it's never the criminal breaking the law, it's those evil legal gun owners, if they wouldn't make it so darn easy...

    ^Sarcasm in case anyone didn't catch that.
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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    I'm not really getting what they want from PA. What possible political benefit could one of our legislators derive from doing anything that NJ might want?

    NJ can pound sand. They held up our port dredging to benefit North Jersey. We should line the border with gun shops and ammo drive throughs (only kidding )

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    NJ, where there was a poll with in last month or two where 50% of the residents said they want to move out of the state. I wonder why?

    Poll results,
    WCBS
    Last edited by ALS; January 23rd, 2008 at 10:39 PM.

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    And why haven't we invaded NJ and taken it back from the Nazi socialists yet?
    RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Has anyone else here ever visted the Gettysburg battlefield? If you did did you also notice that the units from PA were right in the thick of the battle while the NJ unit was in the rear with the gear so to speak? Even back then they were useless.......

    I myself was born and raised in NJ. But when I was old enough I moved to....................PA! One of the last lands of the free! Lets do what we can to keep it that way.

    On a side note I wouldn't shed a tear if the state of NJ was chipped off and pushed out to sea..........just as long as we can somehow attach Philly to it first.

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Almost all criminals don't legally buy firearms. And what about reloading ammo are they going to band that tooooo? And I have never hear any criminal use a 30+lb 50cal. rifle or even a $1200 Desert Eagle 50cal in a crime. Has anyone else?
    Tom

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    I too am born and raised in North Jersey.....and moved to PA for more freedom. We're one of the few families in the Poconos that moved there to just get out of NJ and not for cheap housing. They need to keep their ridiculous laws on their side of the Delaware.

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Talk about protecting borders?

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    Default Re: Ceasefire NJ in PA and baning 50 cals

    Bryan Miller (head of C.F.N.J.) is the perfect archetype...the very model of a gun-banner. His brother, I believe, was shot and killed by some P.O.S. and his grief has caused him to lose his mind. To focus on an inanimate assembly of metal as the "cause" of crime and violence is literally insane. Unfortunately, much of "The Garden State" has consumed a gallon or more of his kool-aid and can no longer think. People like Miller cannot be argued with...they KNOW they're right. The best way to stop Miller and his ilk is to isolate them; realize that NJ is lost - and take a stand on our side of the Delaware. We must talk to our (PA) representatives - at all levels - about what WE expect from them. It's high time to let the subjects of the People's Republic of New Jersey know that the free-born men of Pennsylvania haven't the slightest interest in what they think about guns or appropriate laws pertaining thereto. If we know anything about gun-banners, it's that they always want more laws - at higher levels. Mark my words: once Miller has done as much as he can in NJ, he will come after Pennsylvania, and then, go national. Crazies like him are as predictable as the tides.

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