Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lancaster, Pennsylvania
    (Lancaster County)
    Posts
    4
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Help - Cratered Primers

    Just recently started reloading 45 acp with my dillon and am expetriencing some cratering of my primers after firing. About 50% of the brass appear to be this way while the remainder look normal.

    Am loading 230 grain fmj into range brass using 4.0 grain of bullseye and federal 150 primers which would be a mild load.

    Now - I was shooting multiple guns, (2 1911 and 2 tommy guns) and the tommys do have a heavy spring, but have never seen a primer look like this after firing.

    I am trying to make sure I didnt F something up in my reloading process but cant figure this one out.

    Anyone seen this before
    Attached Images Attached Images

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    a short walk from Tanners, Pennsylvania
    (Bucks County)
    Posts
    613
    Rep Power
    15631

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    It's not from too high pressure. As you approach maximum load the primer will swage out and fill out the rounded edge. With range brass you may have some with different primer hole sizes and case capacity. So they may have different pressures. But that isn't close to a maximum. Maximum pressure will swage out and even show tool marks from the bolt face. (Wish I had a picture handy.)

    Adding a link that might prove informative.
    http://www.realguns.com/archives/023.htm
    Last edited by tabasco_joe; October 3rd, 2011 at 05:56 PM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania
    (Cumberland County)
    Posts
    1,243
    Rep Power
    8954928

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    never seen a pistol with a firing pin profile that large. are you sure that this is not the brass used in the thompson. i also agree that it is not your typical over pressure signature. leave the thompson at home and use this load in your handgun and see what the results are.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Philippi, West Virginia
    Age
    75
    Posts
    1,366
    Rep Power
    617862

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    Were the tommy guns being fired on full auto? A very hard primer hit in full auto could do that. I'm with Red Dog on this, check the primers after shooting the 1911's. I'ed almost bet they will look normal.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lancaster, Pennsylvania
    (Lancaster County)
    Posts
    4
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    Thanks for the feedback. I'm still somewhat new to reloading and try to keep an eye on my brass to make sure I don't have an issue and wanted to try and get some feedback before I made too many more.

    The tommys I was shooting were both semi and we some of the new auto ordinance models and this one one of those rare occasions where I didn't have any issues with them.

    I'll take my 1911 to the range this weekend and make sure.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    (Allegheny County)
    Posts
    1
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    I got some brass off of a buddy of mine that was shot out of a tommy gun and it looked exactly the same and it was factory loaded ammo so i would say it was from the tommy gun that you have

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Emlenton, Pennsylvania
    (Clarion County)
    Age
    58
    Posts
    82
    Rep Power
    51

    Default Re: Help - Cratered Primers

    Check your primer set on some unfired reloads if you didn't shoot them all. Could be the primers are not fully seated.

Similar Threads

  1. use of magnum primers in place of std. primers
    By red dog in forum Ammunition & Reloading
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: July 11th, 2011, 08:02 PM
  2. Primers-Primers my Kingdom for some Primers
    By Tequila Sunrise in forum General
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: May 18th, 2009, 06:51 PM
  3. Win209 Primers for Small Pistol Primers
    By wsmallri in forum General
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: April 25th, 2009, 06:58 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: February 21st, 2009, 02:28 PM
  5. Magnum primers vrs small pistol primers in .357
    By Iron Sights in forum General
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: January 9th, 2009, 06:22 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •