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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post


    This is a chance to flush out those issues publicly. I would have no problem if the casinos were private property owners banning firearms, just means I wouldn't go. However, I have a huge problem with the regulation through government officials and want to hear them back up their opinions on record.
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    2. You will not ever get permission to bring a firearm into the casino, unless you are an active on duty officer of the law, there on official business. The casino owners don't want it, their insurance companies don't want it, and security does not want it. They are not trained to handle anything of a serious nature.
    I can see the casino operators wanting the banning of firearms on casino property, as part of the licensing agreement from the board. So, in effect, the owner operators use the government to get what they want.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    Couple of side topic comments.

    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you. Why holdup a loser, his pockets are empty.

    Walking to your car with a chunk of cash - don't, use valet parking.

    On a big enough payuout, casino will offer an escort.

    Consider taking the payout as a check.

    Personal safety does not start by carrying, it starts with situational awareness, and not being in the wrong place to begin with.
    How many of Ted Bundy's victims were robbed?? How many were "flashing cash"?? How many are dead??

    So....what's the "wrong place"?? If you know where the next act of violent crime will take place....please share this info.

    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you.
    Really?? You're sure of this??
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by reverserboy View Post
    How many of Ted Bundy's victims were robbed?? How many were "flashing cash"?? How many are dead??
    Bundy was a charismatic confidence man, who lured unsuspecting women into dropping their guard. How would most hold-ups relate?

    Quote Originally Posted by reverserboy View Post
    So....what's the "wrong place"?? If you know where the next act of violent crime will take place....please share this info.
    Parking lots are high on the list, especially at places where money is spent, or loss, or even won.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    I can see the casino operators wanting the banning of firearms on casino property, as part of the licensing agreement from the board. So, in effect, the owner operators use the government to get what they want.
    Perhaps, but we don't have anything backing that up. It's either the government forcing the rules upon the business, or the business hiding behind government to impose the rule.

    Which one it is is important to know.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    Bundy was a charismatic confidence man, who lured unsuspecting women into dropping their guard. How would most hold-ups relate?



    Parking lots are high on the list, especially at places where money is spent, or loss, or even won.
    Robbery is not the only crime on this planet. If criminals realize they have a pool of unarmed victims....what's to stop other criminal types like serial killers or rapists from frequenting the area in search of victims.

    Ok...so I'll avoid parking lots. Is there anything else I should change in my life to accomodate criminals??

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    Perhaps, but we don't have anything backing that up. It's either the government forcing the rules upon the business, or the business hiding behind government to impose the rule.

    Which one it is is important to know.
    Just another conspiracy theory. It would be important to know, but just how transparent to do you think those facts are?

    Quote Originally Posted by reverserboy View Post

    Ok...so I'll avoid parking lots. Is there anything else I should change in my life to accomodate criminals??
    If you avoid parking lots, you will not be that accommodating to criminals. Which is it going to be?
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    Just another conspiracy theory. It would be important to know, but just how transparent to do you think those facts are?
    Probably not very transparent, but going through the process for the petition could provide a lot of insight.

    The way I see it there's no downside to doing this.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    Probably not very transparent, but going through the process for the petition could provide a lot of insight.

    The way I see it there's no downside to doing this.

    Either way, the government made the rule, so they will have to answer for it. Just as well, casino owners could post no guns allowed, and be able to, if privately owned.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawgbeav View Post
    This applies if you are leaving the casino. Coming in is a different story. That is when criminals will want to strike. There is a greater chance someone is coming in flush with cash then leaving with cash.

    Yes, valet parking is an option, but some people don't want to pay for it.
    Some don't, but if you're a regular patron, it's comped, except for a $2 tip.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    So, before a criminal makes the decision to hold you up, tell me how he/she is going to know that you aren't carrying cash?
    They don't, but these guys arn't compleatly stupid. They are inside looking to see who hit's big. Don't stand there waving it around, "Oh look what I did today." Right in the pocket, or get a check.

    No question the fault of the roberies are the thugs, but don't make yourself a victim. A little personal responsibility and thought.
    Last edited by Sparks; October 2nd, 2011 at 09:26 PM. Reason: spelling

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