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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Metz View Post
    Anyone willing to chip in with compelling argument?

    Sure:

    "I request permission to carry a handgun in the casino and on casino grounds for the compelling reason that when at and traveling to and from any PA casino I carry large sums of cash. Large. Sums. Of Cash."

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by mud1169 View Post
    Hello Forum,

    I had the unfortunate experience of working for over a year as a security officer in one of the PA casinos.
    Let me clarify some things.
    1. Significant PA State Trooper presence equates to two troopers on-site during Friday and Saturday nights, and special high peak events. Yes there was an 'on-site" barracks, but when it is unmanned 4 to 5 days out of the week, I would not count that as present.
    2. You will not ever get permission to bring a firearm into the casino, unless you are an active on duty officer of the law, there on official business. The casino owners don't want it, their insurance companies don't want it, and security does not want it. They are not trained to handle anything of a serious nature.

    You would do so much better to not go to a casino in PA...period
    This is why I actually support seeking the board's approval, even if the end result is a nearly 100% guaranteed "no".

    This is a chance to flush out those issues publicly. I would have no problem if the casinos were private property owners banning firearms, just means I wouldn't go. However, I have a huge problem with the regulation through government officials and want to hear them back up their opinions on record.

    This might get bigger than just the OP too; I'm getting a bit of interest from some others who are considering petitioning at the same time.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Couple of side topic comments.

    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you. Why holdup a loser, his pockets are empty.

    Walking to your car with a chunk of cash - don't, use valet parking.

    On a big enough payuout, casino will offer an escort.

    Consider taking the payout as a check.

    Personal safety does not start by carrying, it starts with situational awareness, and not being in the wrong place to begin with.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Compelling reason #1 - Self defense against a real and present danger: http://forum.pafoa.org/news-123/1497...t-robbery.html
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you.
    I'm not willing to bet my life on it.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    Couple of side topic comments.

    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you. Why holdup a loser, his pockets are empty.

    Walking to your car with a chunk of cash - don't, use valet parking.

    On a big enough payuout, casino will offer an escort.

    Consider taking the payout as a check.
    This applies if you are leaving the casino. Coming in is a different story. That is when criminals will want to strike. There is a greater chance someone is coming in flush with cash then leaving with cash.

    Yes, valet parking is an option, but some people don't want to pay for it.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    Couple of side topic comments.

    First, if you're not flashing cash, nobody is going to bother you. Why holdup a loser, his pockets are empty.

    Walking to your car with a chunk of cash - don't, use valet parking.

    On a big enough payuout, casino will offer an escort.

    Consider taking the payout as a check.

    Personal safety does not start by carrying, it starts with situational awareness, and not being in the wrong place to begin with.
    So, before a criminal makes the decision to hold you up, tell me how he/she is going to know that you aren't carrying cash?

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by IronSight View Post
    So, before a criminal makes the decision to hold you up, tell me how he/she is going to know that you aren't carrying cash?

    I think the large aluminum briefcase handcuffed to the wrist might be a clue that the person entering the casino is likely flush.

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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_Zark View Post
    I think the large aluminum briefcase handcuffed to the wrist might be a clue that the person entering the casino is likely flush.

    Noah
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    Homeless people get robbed for nothing more than pocket change. If the crime around a casino is that bad then Ill avoid the casinos.
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    Default Re: Carrying in PA casino - got response from the board

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawgbeav View Post
    Yes, valet parking is an option, but some people don't want to pay for it.
    Or they don't want to hand a random stranger the keys to their car which potentially contains a lot of personal items including things with their name and home address on it while said stranger knows they will be otherwise occupied inside the casino and it's likely their house is vacant.

    Unless it's a rental car, I never valet.

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