Question about in car concealment in PA

[awdxtc]

Is it true that in PA your handgun must be concealed ( either on your person or in a case) that is to say you couldn't have it on your seat or in a holster mounted to your center console?

[mrjam2jab]

Not true.

You can have it anywhere in the car...assuming you have a LTCF or a permit from any other state.

[sleeper78]

If the handgun is in your car it is considered concealed no matter where it is. To have a loaded handgun in your car you must possess a LTCF or a similar license/permit from a state with reciprocity.

[awdxtc]

ok thanks for clearing that up.

[mrjam2jab]

If the handgun is in your car it is considered concealed no matter where it is. To have a loaded handgun in your car you must possess a LTCF or a similar license/permit from a state with reciprocity.

While in a car, reciprocity is not necessary.

18 Pa.C.S. § 6106: Firearms not to be carried without a license
(a) Offense defined.--
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a [FN1] valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:

(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

[IronSight]

If the handgun is in your car it is considered concealed no matter where it is.

Citation of law, please.

[mauser]

If the handgun is in your car it is considered concealed no matter where it is. To have a loaded handgun in your car you must possess a LTCF or a similar license/permit from a state with reciprocity.

It is not considered concealed simply because it's in a car. You need a License To Carry Firearms to transport a loaded firearm in a vehicle. It has nothing to do with concealment.
This is why some people are so adamant about calling it a License To Carry Firearms rather than a concealed carry permit or some other name that may be applicable in other states. Our LTCF does not require concealment, it allows it, it also allows several other privileges, transporting in a vehicle being one of them.

Citation of law, please.

I hope this helps to clear it up:

§ 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
(a) Offense defined.--
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who
carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a
firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place
of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and
lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony
of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a
valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any
vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or
about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place
of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and
has not committed any other criminal violation commits a
misdemeanor of the first degree.

§ 6109. Licenses.
(a) Purpose of license.--A license to carry a firearm shall
be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about
one's person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.

(Bold by me for emphasis).

[sleeper78]

Citation of law, please.

Let me rephrase that. You need a license to carry a loaded firearm in a car just like you do to carry concealed. You cannot carry a loaded firearm in a car without a license.

6109 (a) Purpose of a license.--A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout the Commonwealth.

bold is mine.

Edit: Mauser you are a little quicker on the keyboard than me. Thanks

[IronSight]

I hope this helps to clear it up:

Let me rephrase that. You need a license to carry a loaded firearm in a car just like you do to carry concealed. You cannot carry a loaded firearm in a car without a license.

I'm actually glad you responded the way you did, mauser clarified the point that I was going to bring up after your response, but now I don't need to.

[knight0334]

Let me rephrase that. You need a license to carry a loaded firearm in a car just like you do to carry concealed. You cannot carry a loaded firearm in a car without a license.

6109 (a) Purpose of a license.--A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout the Commonwealth.

bold is mine.

Edit: Mauser you are a little quicker on the keyboard than me. Thanks

You cannot have an unloaded handgun in a car without a license either, unless you are going to/from one of the exempted locations in 6106(b).