If this doesnt reinforce the lesson: juvenile accidentally shot

[The_War_Wagon]

It went off, probably when the father had his booker hook on the bang switch.

"Cleaning it and it just went off" is the catch-all cover story for suicide and other unpleasant scenarios to cover up. I doubt that even 10% of the reported "cleaning accidents" took place with unfolded newspapers, bronze brushes, cleaning rods, and an open bottle of Hoppes immediately nearby.

People of the gun need to recognize bullshit when they read it.

Not an "accident"!

This is classic negligence. It was avoidable. Accidents are when guns malfunction. Negligence is when someone does not follow the rules of safety and it results in this type of scenario.

Like said above, these are not accidents, an icicle falling and impaling you in the head is an accident, a tree falling on your car is an accident, smashing your thumb with a hammer is an accident, shooting yourself or someone else while in control (or lack of I guess) a gun is not an accident.

ALL of these. And INFURIATING.

[Waldershrek]

Completely avoidable obviously. I can't imagine the guilt that father is feeling and I don't even have kids.

[TerminusEst]

Completely avoidable obviously. I can't imagine the guilt that father is feeling and I don't even have kids.

At least until the details come out. Like someone said earlier, I VERY highly doubt that most 'accidental' deaths from 'gun cleaning' are truly what the initial claim says it to be. In fact, we just had an incident like this in Lancaster county a while ago where a man 'accidently' shot his pregnant girlfriend in the head while he was 'cleaning his gun'. That's how it was originally reported in the papers, but it didn't take long for him to get charged.

Two things jump out at me with claims like this. First of all, you'd probably find that just about everyone who cares enough about their equipment to clean it thoroughly also has the knowledge and care to do it correctly. Secondly, if it really is a thorough cleaning it would be physically IMPOSSIBLE to do it while loaded. How you gonna get a barrel brush through it?

[HiredGoon]

UPDATE:

Somerset teen died of gunshot wound to chest
By Tribune-Review
Saturday, September 17, 2011
Last updated: 3:54 pm

An autopsy revealed that a 14-year old boy who died of a gunshot wound on Thursday was shot in the chest, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said today.

Bryan Duda, a freshman at Somerset Area High School, was shot at about 4:20 p.m. inside his family's home on David Lane in Somerset Township. He died a short time later at Somerset Hospital, police said.

The boy's father, Robert Duda, a security guard, was cleaning his service weapon when it discharged, family friend Paul Conroy said. The bullet traveled across the open floor plan of the residence, according to Conroy.

State police in Somerset are investigating and released no further details today.

From another story:

14-Year-Old Shot Dead, Possibly By Dad
State Police Investigate In Somerset Township

POSTED: 11:26 am EDT September 16, 2011
UPDATED: 6:04 pm EDT September 16, 2011

SOMERSET, Pa. -- A 14-year-old boy was shot and killed, and it appears that his father fired the gun, state police said.

The shooting of Bryan Duda was reported at a home on David Lane in Somerset Township at about 4:20 p.m. Thursday.

Early indications are that the shooting was an accident, according to police at the Somerset station. The investigation continues, and police have not said whether they plan to pursue any charges.

One of the Duda family's friends told Channel 4 Action News reporter Shannon Perrine that the father bought the gun for his job as a security guard at a mine.

"He just got it for, in case anybody would try to harm him any way, and that way he had something to protect himself with, because we're out there in the middle of nowhere," Eric Ross said.

Friends said Duda's father had recently been laid off from that job, and he wanted to sell the gun, so he was cleaning the weapon, and that's when it went off and fired a shot.

"His father cycled the weapon several times to make sure the weapon was cleared. There was a bullet stuck in the back of the chamber that his father didn't see, laid the weapon down to sit here and finish cleaning it," Paul Conroy said.

The boy was in another room, and the bullet traveled there and hit him in the side, according to Conroy.

Duda, a freshman at Somerset Area High School, was described as "very fun-loving" and "an easy-going kid" by family friend Amy Bracken.

"He was kind of shy at times, but once you got him to open up, he would he would talk your ear off, and that's just -- we loved him," Bracken said.

[Statkowski]

"His father cycled the weapon several times to make sure the weapon was cleared. There was a bullet stuck in the back of the chamber that his father didn't see, laid the weapon down to sit here and finish cleaning it," Paul Conroy said.

Duh! How about dropping the magazine and then cycling it? Huh?

[ByblosHex]

Duh! How about dropping the magazine and then cycling it? Huh?

How does a bullet get stuck in the back of the chamber?

[spacemanvic]

How does a bullet get stuck in the back of the chamber?

I'm tryin to figure that one out myself.

[Waldershrek]

I assume they are talking about a failure to extract?

[Philbert]

Duh! How about dropping the magazine and then cycling it? Huh?

If the extractor is broken, there might still be a round in the chamber. You've got to see the empty chamber and mag well before you can pull the trigger. And when you do, you need to have a safe backstop.

[son of the revolution]

I assume they are talking about a failure to extract?

Not that it couldnt have been a failure to extract, but it would be pretty unusual to have that on a new gun. Not to mention, your ALWAYS supposed to visually verify an empty chamber. Much more likely that as others initmated, Dad cycled the slide before he dropped the mag. Thats been the case in numerous documented " accidental " shootings in the past. Remember the DEA Agent in the Florida classroom that was the " qualified expert " ? Yep, you guessed it, he cycled the slide before he dropped the mag to show the kids. Result ? BOOM !