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September 13th, 2011, 09:18 PM #1
House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http://www
Lawmakers are considering a House bill that would give Americans who hold permits to carry firearms in their home states the right to carry their weapons across state lines.
Although many states have entered into voluntary agreements, there is no nationwide framework for honoring permits and licenses uniformly. A bipartisan bill, co-authored by Reps. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., and Heath Shuler, D-N.C., aims to change that.
Supporters say the measure would not create a federal licensing system, but would require that all states recognize lawfully issued permits -- regardless of where they were issued. Gun rights advocacy groups say it's the only way to make sure that lawful gun owners' Second Amendment rights are guaranteed when they travel away from their home states.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1Xsx1yAsh
estifying before Congress on Tuesday, Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told the story of Marqus Hill, a man whose Pennsylvania gun permit was revoked after he was charged with attempted murder.
"Despite his record, he then used his Florida permit to carry a loaded gun in Philadelphia," Ramsey said. "He eventually shot a teenager thirteen times in the chest killing him on the street."
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September 13th, 2011, 09:21 PM #2
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I don't like the feds getting in the middle of this. As much of a PITA it is, leave it at the state level. Otherwise, they can make other decisions about CC and they're not all going to be good ones.
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September 13th, 2011, 09:31 PM #3
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September 13th, 2011, 10:26 PM #4
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If this were to pass would it help someone who does not have a permit in their state that has a non-res out of state. I have a florida permit and am waiting on my delaware permit. Delaware honors Fl non-res, but if you live in delaware they will not honor it Would this law force them to honor it?
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September 13th, 2011, 10:48 PM #5
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September 13th, 2011, 11:11 PM #6
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I hope all of you who are against government intervention in states business contact your represenatives and tell them to vote against this
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September 13th, 2011, 11:56 PM #8
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I get the impression that the states will still individually issue licenses and permits and we'd still have to honor each states individual carry laws, but we'd have national reciprocity. That's my impression.
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Bingo, this is my interpretation of the Constitution.
There are three 'governments': The Federal Government, the State Government and the individual who governs themselves.
The Feds are to protect the individual from the State. The State is to protect the individual from the Fed and the individual protects themselves from the Fed and the State when all else fails via our Bill of Rights. Similar to the three branches of government that form a system of checks and balances.
As for those who are against the federalization of state permits, you are siding with Mr. Alexander Hamilton in his anti-federalist writings. He basically said not to have a bill of rights or the government will twist it and use it against you by saying it is repealed, which it cannot, by definition, be repealed. Why declare something illegal to do that the government has no legal basis to do in the first place?
In this case, the other point is that the states have usurped the 2A which is better than the Feds doing so, but the power is supposed to be with the individual citizen and whether or not they wish to keep and bear arms now or at any time. So, in my definition, the Feds should step in as the states are over reaching their authority IMHO.
The other solution is for people to just start carrying and raising hell when they arrest people en mass for violation of laws that are unconstitional to begin with.It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch
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September 14th, 2011, 12:42 AM #10
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Guys, there is anothr forum discussion referencing this capital hill debate. It is the NRA reciprocity forum. I don't havethelink handy on my mobile so I hope someone can tag it on.....
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