Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 27
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Camp Lejeune NC., Pennsylvania
    (Lancaster County)
    Age
    32
    Posts
    469
    Rep Power
    2159

    Default House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http://www

    Lawmakers are considering a House bill that would give Americans who hold permits to carry firearms in their home states the right to carry their weapons across state lines.
    Although many states have entered into voluntary agreements, there is no nationwide framework for honoring permits and licenses uniformly. A bipartisan bill, co-authored by Reps. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., and Heath Shuler, D-N.C., aims to change that.

    Supporters say the measure would not create a federal licensing system, but would require that all states recognize lawfully issued permits -- regardless of where they were issued. Gun rights advocacy groups say it's the only way to make sure that lawful gun owners' Second Amendment rights are guaranteed when they travel away from their home states.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1Xsx1yAsh


    estifying before Congress on Tuesday, Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told the story of Marqus Hill, a man whose Pennsylvania gun permit was revoked after he was charged with attempted murder.
    "Despite his record, he then used his Florida permit to carry a loaded gun in Philadelphia," Ramsey said. "He eventually shot a teenager thirteen times in the chest killing him on the street."
    This guy is as dumb as it gets!! ^^^


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...s-state-lines/
    Semper Fi

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Out in the yard
    Posts
    107
    Rep Power
    286

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    I don't like the feds getting in the middle of this. As much of a PITA it is, leave it at the state level. Otherwise, they can make other decisions about CC and they're not all going to be good ones.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Camp Lejeune NC., Pennsylvania
    (Lancaster County)
    Age
    32
    Posts
    469
    Rep Power
    2159

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by rayh059 View Post
    I don't like the feds getting in the middle of this. As much of a PITA it is, leave it at the state level. Otherwise, they can make other decisions about CC and they're not all going to be good ones.
    i agree, it would be a nice law, but i dont trust the feds at all.

    That comment by the philly idiot just killed me.
    Semper Fi

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    new castle, Delaware
    Posts
    1,499
    Rep Power
    9293008

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    If this were to pass would it help someone who does not have a permit in their state that has a non-res out of state. I have a florida permit and am waiting on my delaware permit. Delaware honors Fl non-res, but if you live in delaware they will not honor it Would this law force them to honor it?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Levittown, Pennsylvania
    (Bucks County)
    Age
    35
    Posts
    1,917
    Rep Power
    2530428

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedog46 View Post
    If this were to pass would it help someone who does not have a permit in their state that has a non-res out of state. I have a florida permit and am waiting on my delaware permit. Delaware honors Fl non-res, but if you live in delaware they will not honor it Would this law force them to honor it?
    Sounds to me the way it is being talked about IMHO at this point in time it would be your home state permit/license will be recognized out of state.
    <-Click For My Youtube [Don't waive your rights with your flags. -Sage Francis]

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Cranberry
    Posts
    1,954
    Rep Power
    3591678

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    I hope all of you who are against government intervention in states business contact your represenatives and tell them to vote against this

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    There's no place like ~
    Posts
    2,727
    Rep Power
    168989

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by cigarmanpa View Post
    I hope all of you who are against government intervention in states business contact your represenatives and tell them to vote against this
    ... but before you do, consider that this law is not the Federal Government interfering with State's Rights, but rather the Federal Government preventing the States from interfering with your rights.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Enola, Pennsylvania
    (Cumberland County)
    Posts
    1,069
    Rep Power
    516738

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    I get the impression that the states will still individually issue licenses and permits and we'd still have to honor each states individual carry laws, but we'd have national reciprocity. That's my impression.
    Last edited by EvoRich; September 13th, 2011 at 11:58 PM.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Franklin, Pennsylvania
    (Venango County)
    Posts
    3,920
    Rep Power
    15878969

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by FNG19 View Post
    ... but before you do, consider that this law is not the Federal Government interfering with State's Rights, but rather the Federal Government preventing the States from interfering with your rights.
    Bingo, this is my interpretation of the Constitution.

    There are three 'governments': The Federal Government, the State Government and the individual who governs themselves.

    The Feds are to protect the individual from the State. The State is to protect the individual from the Fed and the individual protects themselves from the Fed and the State when all else fails via our Bill of Rights. Similar to the three branches of government that form a system of checks and balances.

    As for those who are against the federalization of state permits, you are siding with Mr. Alexander Hamilton in his anti-federalist writings. He basically said not to have a bill of rights or the government will twist it and use it against you by saying it is repealed, which it cannot, by definition, be repealed. Why declare something illegal to do that the government has no legal basis to do in the first place?

    In this case, the other point is that the states have usurped the 2A which is better than the Feds doing so, but the power is supposed to be with the individual citizen and whether or not they wish to keep and bear arms now or at any time. So, in my definition, the Feds should step in as the states are over reaching their authority IMHO.

    The other solution is for people to just start carrying and raising hell when they arrest people en mass for violation of laws that are unconstitional to begin with.
    It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Lancaster, Pennsylvania
    (Lancaster County)
    Posts
    650
    Rep Power
    85009

    Default Re: House Weighs Bill to Make Gun Permits Valid Across State Lines Read more: http:/

    Guys, there is anothr forum discussion referencing this capital hill debate. It is the NRA reciprocity forum. I don't havethelink handy on my mobile so I hope someone can tag it on.....

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1
    Last Post: February 18th, 2011, 01:12 PM
  2. WOW, PA, DE, and VA licenses/permits could be valid in MD
    By GL23 in forum Concealed & Open Carry
    Replies: 123
    Last Post: January 22nd, 2011, 08:36 PM
  3. House Bill 1701 - No firearms in State Capitol
    By NoHackrLtd in forum General
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: November 25th, 2008, 07:35 PM
  4. PA state house ammo bill 2228
    By Rampager in forum General
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: February 24th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •