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    I am an old fashioned revolver , DA/SA auto guy. I am looking into a new auto. Can anyone please give some insight into the following firearms , pro's , con's and any personal expierence you may have with each:

    Glock 19 , 23

    Springfield Armory XD 9mm or .40

    Ruger SR9, SR40

    S&W Sigma 9mm or .40

    Walther PPQ 9mm or .40
    Last edited by Zeke2A; September 2nd, 2011 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Typo on the Rugers ....
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    I'll try to break it down for you:

    9mm has less recoil, is less expensive, and you usually get higher capacity, but it will make a smaller hole in the bad guy.

    .40 has more recoil, is more expensive, and you will usually get less capacity, but it will make a larger hole in the bad guy.

    Once you decide which caliber you want, buy whichever gun feels most comfortable for you. Go to a gun store and hold each one.

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    In my opinion, the G23 is the best of what you have listed. I am not particular to Glock, but the G23 is hard to beat as an all around pistol.
    Last edited by harold63; September 2nd, 2011 at 03:36 PM.
    BCM and Glock...for a bigger pile of 'cold dead hands' brass.

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    I can only speak for the Sigma. I have an older V model in .40 S&W and I really like it.

    It goes BANG every time I pull the trigger, is moderately lightweight, eats anything, and has a 14 round capacity.

    It is very similar to the Glocks in that there are no manual safety - something that it took me a very long time to get used to. (I usually carry a 1911 cocked and locked)

    I lightened the trigger pull by removing one of the springs that was rumored to have been installed at the insistence of PDs - assuming a harder pull would make for a safer gun.

    I think it is also the least expensive of the ones you have listed.

    Highly recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bac0nfat View Post
    I'll try to break it down for you:

    9mm has less recoil, is less expensive, and you usually get higher capacity, but it will make a smaller hole in the bad guy.

    .40 has more recoil, is more expensive, and you will usually get less capacity, but it will make a larger hole in the bad guy.

    Once you decide which caliber you want, buy whichever gun feels most comfortable for you. Go to a gun store and hold each one.


    I am familiar with the differences in the calibers and their effect on the BG's.....

    I am unfamiliar with the "safe action style" firearm that is the rage nowdays

    I currently CC a .44 Tracker and a S&W 411.

    While I appreciate your abbreviated and albiet brief breakdown I was hoping for something a bit more detail oriented.

    My visit tothe gunstore and the "feel" of the firearm will not tell me any underlining flaws or red flags that may exist with each. A Lorcin .25 may "feel" right but we know what a quality piece they are...
    Last edited by Zeke2A; September 2nd, 2011 at 04:23 PM.
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    Well, one would really need to know what all you want to do with the gun to give a more informative answer. Depending on what you want it for, there may be better choices that you do not have listed.
    BCM and Glock...for a bigger pile of 'cold dead hands' brass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300WM View Post
    Well, one would really need to know what all you want to do with the gun to give a more informative answer. Depending on what you want it for, there may be better choices that you do not have listed.
    CC .... for myself and my wife. She currently CC's the 411 doesn't like the safety( can't carry locked and cocked , it has a de-cocker and the DA action is a bit heavy for her) hence the models I have listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke2A View Post
    I am an old fashioned revolver , DA/SA auto guy. I am looking into a new auto. Can anyone please give some insight into the following firearms , pro's , con's and any personal expierence you may have with each:

    Glock 19 , 23

    Springfield Armory XD 9mm or .40

    Ruger SD9 or SD40

    S&W Sigma 9mm or .40

    Walther PPQ 9mm or .40

    456 - All are fairly even though I'd replace the Sigma series with M&P series S&W. And I agree I don't know why the PPQ series Walthers are not MORE popular or the S&W variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke2A View Post
    Ruger SD9 or SD40
    Sir do you mean S&W SD9 and SD40 or Ruger SR9 and SR40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke2A View Post
    CC .... for myself and my wife. She currently CC's the 411 doesn't like the safety( can't carry locked and cocked , it has a de-cocker and the DA action is a bit heavy for her) hence the models I have listed.
    My opinion would stay the same, the G23. There are a couple of HK compacts that are not as thin as the Glock, but would be my personal carry choice because of the better accuracy and I like the more vertical angle of the HK grip. The G23 may be just a tick easier to conceal, but does not have the features of the HK's. Both are lightweight and reliable, and very rustproof.
    BCM and Glock...for a bigger pile of 'cold dead hands' brass.

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