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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    No input on legality, but my pistol grip 500 kicks like a mule and is hard to aim decently. Just got a shoulder stock today. Anyone wanna buy a pistol grip? Haha.

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    As others said. LTCF does not permit the carry of a loaded long gun.
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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    How about this...is it legal to carry a pistol grip 18" barrel shotgun concealed under a rain coat or Cabela's outback coat? I'm guessing NO also!

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketFoot View Post
    How about this...is it legal to carry a pistol grip 18" barrel shotgun concealed under a rain coat or Cabela's outback coat? I'm guessing NO also!

    We have a winner!
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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    We have a winner!
    LOL...if you have to ask if it's legal, it probably isn't!

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketFoot View Post
    How about this...is it legal to carry a pistol grip 18" barrel shotgun concealed under a rain coat or Cabela's outback coat?
    yes, it is legal...and you do not even need a license.

    that weapon does not fit the PA UFA general definition of a firearm. therefore, the pohibition against carrying a concealed firearm without a license does not apply to it.

    the definition is:

    "Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less
    than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18
    inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or
    any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of
    less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be
    determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the
    face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is
    applicable.

    the only law that applies to long guns (which is what an 18" pistol grip shotgun is as far as the PA UFA is concerned) is:

    § 6106.1. Carrying loaded weapons other than firearms.
    (a) General rule.--Except as provided in Title 34 (relating
    to game), no person shall carry a loaded pistol, revolver,
    shotgun or rifle, other than a firearm as defined in section
    6102 (relating to definitions), in any vehicle. The provisions
    of this section shall not apply to persons excepted from the
    requirement of a license to carry firearms under section
    6106(b)(1), (2), (5) or (6) (relating to firearms not to be
    carried without a license) nor shall the provisions of this
    section be construed to permit persons to carry firearms in a
    vehicle where such conduct is prohibited by section 6106.
    (b) Penalty.--A person who violates the provisions of this
    section commits a summary offense.
    so, you cannot carry a loaded 18" pistol grip shotgun in a car...even if you do have an LTCF (since an LTCF only covers "firearms" as defined above).

    but, the section above only addresses carrying in a vehicle, not on foot. there is no prohibition against open or concealed carry of a long gun anywhere in the PA UFA.

    thus, you can, in fact, walk around with an 18" pistol grip shotgun concealed under your coat...with or without an LTCF.

    you can also walk around with a 16" AR concealed under your coat...with or without an LTCF.
    Last edited by LittleRedToyota; January 10th, 2008 at 08:01 PM.

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Also....before you get the Hacksaw out, and make your own Short Barrel Shotgun, that would be Illegal as well....unless you have it registered and pay the $200 tax stamp prior to doing so.


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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    so, you cannot carry a loaded 18" pistol grip shotgun in a car...even if you do have an LTCF (since an LTCF only covers "firearms" as defined above).

    but, the section above only addresses carrying in a vehicle, not on foot. there is no prohibition against open or concealed carry of a long gun anywhere in the PA UFA.

    thus, you can, in fact, walk around with an 18" pistol grip shotgun concealed under your coat...with or without an LTCF.

    you can also walk around with a 16" AR concealed under your coat...with or without an LTCF.
    I stand corrected. This was actually discussed recently on a thread with a member that wanted to carry an AR or something. Forgot all about that.

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    Cool! Reminds me of Tubbs from Miami Vice...packing a pistol grip pump (but his was small!

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    Default Re: so can i carry a loaded shotgun in my car or not?

    If you want something in a rifle caliber... Why not try a Keltec PLR 16? http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/plr16.html Its legally a handgun in 5.56.

    Shotgun alternative...A Judge in 20 guage http://www.taurususa.com/whatsnew/revolvers.cfm
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