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    Default Independence Hall clarification?

    Read some 2 year old threads re: carry at Independence Hall/Liberty Bell. No resolution as to carrying inside the buildings per the federal building vs. National parks issue.

    I have to go there with my patient on Monday (and Franklin Institute, which is CC ok), and need to know if I have to disarm myself in order to enter the cradle of American Liberty.

    Anyone have new and relevant info?
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    So long as you are on the OUTSIDE... you are fine. If You are entering the Liberty Bell building, even though the security screening is enough of a joke that you are unlikey to be caught, you're still breaking the federal law. So yeah, you're going to need to secure it outside.

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    And are lockers provided, or do I walk through the valley with neither rod nor staff?
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    Default Re: Independence Hall clarification?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonEMTP View Post
    So long as you are on the OUTSIDE... you are fine. If You are entering the Liberty Bell building, even though the security screening is enough of a joke that you are unlikely to be caught, you're still breaking the federal law. So yeah, you're going to need to secure it outside.
    I thought the national parks carry legalization covered that, or is it not effective yet?
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    Default Re: Independence Hall clarification?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowfin View Post
    I thought the national parks carry legalization covered that, or is it not effective yet?
    The National Parks legislation (Feb '10?) ONLY affects regulations promulgated by the Dept of the Interior in National Parks and Wildlife areas. It does not in any way affect 18 USC 930 which prohibits weapon possession inside Federal facilities (buildings tat are duty stations of Federal employees).

    Note that 930(h) requires ALL such areas to be property signed. No signs = no conviction.
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    The building that houses the liberty bell has signs for no firearms
    "...The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded...It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force."
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    Default Re: Independence Hall clarification?

    Park buildings are labeled with No Firearms sign, and show the statute making them prohibited.

    You can carry outside all you want, but you can't set foot in ANY federal building with a firearm.

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    mmmkay... thanks for the 411. too bad I dont have one of those Glocks... I heard they're ceramic and you can go right thru a metal detector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ten*K View Post
    And are lockers provided, or do I walk through the valley with neither rod nor staff?
    No lockers provided, and nothing anywhere close. You have to go unheeled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lprgcFrank View Post
    The building that houses the liberty bell has signs for no firearms
    So do they just call it "the bell" now that there's no liberty? Seriously, do they not see the point of why those buildings are there? That's like me bringing a keg to an AA meeting.
    Last edited by Yellowfin; July 28th, 2011 at 11:44 PM.
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