Denied PA LTCF, Florida?

[Ricochet]

So a person who hurt nobody, got his life straightened out and is on a straight and narrow path to leading a successful life has his rights taken away?

Thats bullshit and un American.

[D10]

Thats bullshit and un American.

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This...

[knight0334]

So a person who hurt nobody, got his life straightened out and is on a straight and narrow path to leading a successful life has his rights taken away?

Thats bullshit and un American.

The United States of America has been becoming the Republic of Amerika since 1865.

[ByblosHex]

Except that the law as written uses the present tense: "IS."

If the brother is now clean, and has never been convicted of a felony and has never been involuntarily committed to a mental health institution, he is NOT prohibited under Federal law from possessing firearms. He also should not be prohibited from obtaining a LTCF.


I hope whoever told you that is not a lawyer, because if he/she is a lawyer, he/she should be disbarred. Words have meaning, and words in laws especially have meaning. If a law says "is," it cannot be construed to also include "was" and "will be."

It's not just told to me that way, but it is also written in the Law that way. When the Law says "Is" it does also me "Will Be".

§ 1. Words denoting number, gender, and so forth
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise—
words importing the singular include and apply to several persons, parties, or things;

words importing the plural include the singular;

words importing the masculine gender include the feminine as well;

words used in the present tense include the future as well as the present;

...

Also, if you wish to challenge the Lawyer I first heard this form, see GunLawyer001's post here: http://forum.pafoa.org/lounge-108/14...ml#post1650623

Your girlfriend is wrong; show him this:

1 Pa.C.S.A. § 1902. Number; gender; tense

The singular shall include the plural, and the plural, the singular. Words used in the masculine gender shall include the feminine and neuter. Words used in the past or present tense shall include the future.

I dunno man, post #7 seems pretty cut and dry with the verbiage.

What I was thinking myself. But we're not lawyers and clearly Greywolf is.

So a person who hurt nobody, got his life straightened out and is on a straight and narrow path to leading a successful life has his rights taken away?

Thats bullshit and un American.

I agree with you.

[God's Country]

What was the reason stated for denial?
Or did I miss it?

[ByblosHex]

What was the reason stated for denial?
Or did I miss it?

Denial? What Denial? He hasn't applied for anything yet?

[zackattack784]

What was the reason stated for denial?
Or did I miss it?

Denial? What Denial? He hasn't applied for anything yet.

It's posted right here.

Hey guys.

I am a current LTCF holder, this question pertains to my brother. About 3 years ago my brother was a drug user. He was never arrested or caught doing drugs by the police but there was one time my parents called and had the cops come out and he went into rehab under his own power. My parents and me took him there and checked him in. He has now been clean for 2 years this past May. A few months ago he applied for his LTCF and was denied due to being admitted to rehab. I was unaware that this would be on his record and prevent him from getting his LTCF in PA. So I was wondering is this something that FL looks at as well or should he be able to get a Non-resident License. I can understand if a lot of you feel he should not be able to own/carry a gun but if you personally knew him you would see he has really changed his life around.

Also he has never attempted to buy a gun in PA. I assume that buying a gun and a LTCF are similiar processes so he would be denied buying a gun as well.

[ByblosHex]

It's posted right here.

Due to be being admitted to rehab is what it said on the denial letter?

Also. I don't think that's something that would come back on PICS or any other criminal background check to be honest. Id be interested to know if it did though.

[God's Country]

Due to be being admitted to rehab is what it said on the denial letter?

That's my question. I read the presumed reason in the op.

Isn't the sheriff supposed to give the lawful cause for denial?

Such as you have been denied because you character is such that you may act in a dangerous manner.
Reason: recent stay in a drug rehab/recent drug aduction.

[zackattack784]

Due to be being admitted to rehab is what it said on the denial letter?

Also. I don't think that's something that would come back on PICS or any other criminal background check to be honest. Id be interested to know if it did though.

I only know what's posted. You said he hadn't applied, but it appears he has. I know being involuntarily committed to a mental institution (not sure about drug rehab) is a disqualifier, but that doesn't appear to be the case in this instance. We're gonna need the OP for more information.