Taurus 709 vs Ruger LC9

**innocent75** · July 7th, 2011, 10:17 PM

I'm considering getting a slim concealable summer carry weapon. I held the LC9 and it felt fairly good for a small gun. I have seen the Taurus and it looks like a nice gun too.

I know I may catch flack for this but I did not like the Glock 26 at all. I found it uncomfortable to even hold in my hand.

I'm just curious as to what you guys and gals experiences are with the 709 or the LC9.

**Neko456** · July 8th, 2011, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by innocent75

I'm considering getting a slim concealable summer carry weapon. I held the LC9 and it felt fairly good for a small gun. I have seen the Taurus and it looks like a nice gun too.

I know I may catch flack for this but I did not like the Glock 26 at all. I found it uncomfortable to even hold in my hand.

I'm just curious as to what you guys and gals experiences are with the 709 or the LC9.

456 - I would say that those two guns are small step up from Kel tec P11 9mm they are almost the same size maybe a little heavier and more accurate then 15 yards. Now the Kahar 9/40s are cream the top in this category imho.

**Valorius** · July 8th, 2011, 12:30 PM

The Ruger is nicer, but the Kahr CW9 is even nicer still.

**innocent75** · July 8th, 2011, 01:28 PM

I'll have to look at the Kahr as well. I looked at a ruger and it seemed to feel good. I have a Taurus 24/7 pro 9mm I carry a lot, but something easier to conceal in a t shirt sounds good to me. Plus I need to be able to " justify" a new pistol.

I did want to clear up my statement about glock pistols. I have shot some full sized glocks and they were very nice... Felt good in hand, shot good. I just don't care for their subcompacts in MY hand.

Looks like I'll be making a trip to the gun shop. It'll be tough but someone has to do it

**BionicMan** · July 8th, 2011, 01:41 PM

Back in October I tested the Taurus PT709 vs the Kel Tec PF9, and it was really no contest as the Taurus won in every way except price. See post #26:
http://forum.pafoa.org/pistols-41/11...im-page-3.html

I only mention this comparison because in the April 2011 edition of Gun Tests they put the Kel Tec PF9 and the Ruger LC9 head to head. They determined the winner was the PF9, stating:
"In short, the new Ruger did what Kel-Tec designed it to do, but didn’t do it as well as Kel-Tec, in our opinion. We gave the Ruger a C because it’s heavier, thicker, harder to shoot well, and a third-again more costly than the other gun."

I've never personally shot the Ruger, but after reading Gun Test's review I have a tough time believing the Taurus wouldn't come out ahead in a 709 vs LC9 comparison. Having put a number of rounds through the aforementioned Kahr CW9, I think the 709 is a better choice than that as well. The Taurus seems better built, is easier to conceal, and has a better trigger IMO. The trigger pull on the Taurus is shorter, crisper, and more predictable . . . which lead to me shooting tighter groups with the Taurus.

I think you'd probably get by fine with any of them, but the 709 would certainly be my choice of the cheap subcompact polymer 9mm's.

**TXDMERC73** · July 8th, 2011, 01:52 PM

I wouldnt trust my life with a Taurus, I do everyday with a Ruger. You will find more people choose the LC9 over the 709 for CC.

**wishIhada5.0** · July 8th, 2011, 01:58 PM

Ruger > Taurus on any day that ends in Y IMO

**innocent75** · July 10th, 2011, 10:05 PM

Well got to shoot a few rounds through it yesterday. By a few I mean like 25. My wife and I were going to Knobels and I talked her into taking her S&W 640 and my LC9 for a quick walk.

It shot fairly well. I on the other hand will take some practice. The trigger much like other reviews have said is long and firm. The gun felt nice shooting recoil was snappy but that is to be expected. Extremely concealable felt great shooting in my opinion.

If I had to decide on buying again I would in a heartbeat. It will be a little while til it moves to EDC gun. I won't carry it until I am 100% confident and that will be a few hundred more rounds down the road.

**NuclearSociety** · March 8th, 2012, 08:07 PM

I know this is an old topic but I wanted to toss an update out there.

I never have had anything but problems with any kel-tec I have ever owned. MY PF9 Was giving light primer strikes, and this is unacceptable as my daily CC.

I sold it and bought a Ruger LC9 with Lasermax laser and have not looked back since.

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Also, The finger extension on the LC9 actually fits my hand unlike the PF9. The PF9 I had to adjust my grip after every shot because the gun wanted to jump out because of how small it was, with the LC9 I do not have this issue.

**Neko456** · March 9th, 2012, 12:04 PM

You read alot about LC9 problems here my Kel Tec P11 has never given me any problems . It was light and accurate within its limit. I replaced it with a SRC9 better trigger, sights and faster to shoot, it cost more and just a better overall pistol. It is a little bigger then the Kel tec or Tarus 709 and the 709 has the same traits as the SRC9 (except for the 17 round mag that comes with the SR9).

Between the 709 or LC9 I'd opt for 709 better sights, trigger and more capacity, the LC9 is a little smaller.