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    Default Guests on probation?

    OK here is the run down. My niece's loved one is on probation they both really want to attend family functions this weekend. Now myself my brother inlaw and my other brother inlaw all own guns. And WE would really would like to see them around for the holidays. We are a very tight nit family. So what we as a family are trying to figure out is. What can we as gun owners do so that they may attend the family get together and no probation laws are broken? Now as a side note they do know that the loved one can not be around weapons. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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    Default Re: Guests on probation?

    I had a Housemate (didn't share the same room) in college that was on probation, and had the same concerns that you have expressed. I called the probation department, found out who his Probation Officer was and told him my concerns about not getting my buddy in trouble. He told me that as long as we didn't share a room and they were stored in MY space that it was not an issue.

    That being said, I do NOT know what the actual law is regarding this as I was content to take the word of the guy that would have been coming to put the cuffs on my buddy.

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    Default Re: Guests on probation?

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardtho View Post
    What can we as gun owners do so that they may attend the family get together and no probation laws are broken?
    If they are unable to access the guns, they are okay. This can be anything from a gun safe to running a cable lock through all of the trigger guards and keeping the key in your own pocket. Or lock them in your car trunk.

    In other words, take reasonable precautions, which show that you have actively denied possession or use.

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    Just lock up the guns in a cabinet or safe. If you lack either, put them in one room and lock it. As long as he doesn't have control or custody of the gun he should not get in trouble. You have no legal worries, only the person on probation has legal worries.
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    Default Re: Guests on probation?

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Just lock up the guns in a cabinet or safe. If you lack either, put them in one room and lock it. As long as he doesn't have control or custody of the gun he should ( ) get in trouble. You have no legal worries, only the person on probation has legal worries.
    You left out a word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    You left out a word.
    yep.. the old lady came in and distracted me..

    fixed.
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    I was pretty sure that was the case but just wanted to make sure. Now one other thing if I or someone else is c/c or o/c at the time of visit. Do we need to disarm and lock up those firearms as well?


    Thank you for your responses and your answers
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    Default Re: Guests on probation?

    Unless the persons probation officer is also attending this get together, I wouldn't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardtho View Post
    I was pretty sure that was the case but just wanted to make sure. Now one other thing if I or someone else is c/c or o/c at the time of visit. Do we need to disarm and lock up those firearms as well?


    Thank you for your responses and your answers


    No. The person on probation doesn't have possession, control, or custody of the gun. Otherwise he'd violate probation anytime he walked by an on-duty police officer.
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    Keep your safe locked and the keys ON you - you'll be fine.

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