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  1. #1
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    Default Another SBR question

    I would like to install a stamped reciever trunion on my AK pistol. This will give me a few stock options.

    Question is, after all the paper work is finished and approved can I change stocks, lets say from a standard wooden stock to a lever activated wire folding stock, will I need to report that to the ATF?

    I have a lot of time on my hands lately so I think of these things.

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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    As long as you keep the original configuration (stock) that is on your Form 1 then you are good to go to switch stocks as you please.

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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
    As long as you keep the original configuration (stock) that is on your Form 1 then you are good to go to switch stocks as you please.
    I thank you sir.

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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    I was looking at getting a Colt LE M4 from JB Arms out of the Philly area. Since it is in PA and so am I, can I assume ownership of said rifle as long as I do not put together weapon (upper and lower receiver) to form a SBR until my F1 clears ATF? Or do I have to wait until I have F1 in hand to take it home with me?

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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    Quote Originally Posted by kahamlett View Post
    I was looking at getting a Colt LE M4 from JB Arms out of the Philly area. Since it is in PA and so am I, can I assume ownership of said rifle as long as I do not put together weapon (upper and lower receiver) to form a SBR until my F1 clears ATF? Or do I have to wait until I have F1 in hand to take it home with me?
    You have to wait until the form 1 returns to you before you can take ownership.

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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    Quote Originally Posted by kahamlett View Post
    I was looking at getting a Colt LE M4 from JB Arms out of the Philly area. Since it is in PA and so am I, can I assume ownership of said rifle as long as I do not put together weapon (upper and lower receiver) to form a SBR until my F1 clears ATF? Or do I have to wait until I have F1 in hand to take it home with me?
    Wouldn't a Colt LE M4 be a complete Title II weapon to start with? (MODEL SP6921(?))
    If so it would transfer to you on a Form 4, & you'd have to wait to pick it up till they get your Form 4 back approved.
    Last edited by GUNGUY45; December 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 PM.
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    Default Re: Another SBR question

    Quote Originally Posted by 00boraslow View Post
    You have to wait until the form 1 returns to you before you can take ownership.
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNGUY45 View Post
    Wouldn't a Colt LE M4 be a complete Title II weapon to start with?
    If so it would transfer to you on a Form 4, & you'd have to wait to pick it up till they get your Form 4 back approved.
    They are correct (except for the Form 1/Form 4 confusion: a transfer is on a 4, making is on a 1). While it's possible to "un-SBR" a registered SBR, and then transfer it directly to you like any other Title I firearm, you would then be required to Form I it and pay the $200 making tax if you wanted to make it into an SBR again. And you'd have to etch your name, city, & state on the gun.
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