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August 7th, 2010, 01:55 PM #31
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This is a very early piece - Bridgeport barrel address started around s/n 30,000 +/- a couple thousand, need more data. I'd estimate Year of Manufacture to be around 1967-68, again need more data. The finish on these guns was a semi-polished blue. Can't say at this time that a matte finish is not original, it's possibly a later refinish after sand/bead blasting???
Thanks for the info.
JimJim Hauff H&R Collector In memory of my friends Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie.
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August 7th, 2010, 01:59 PM #32
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Jim Hauff H&R Collector In memory of my friends Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie.
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August 7th, 2010, 02:20 PM #33
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Here's some info on the longer barrelled models. I have examples, in my collection of the ones listed below, except for the very last TARGET SS model...
[QUOTE=Pizza Bob;1282341] After your post I got curious and did some cursory research, and I could find absolutely no mention of a 6" CA revolver - with fixed or adjustable sights. Even a 4" with fixed sights would be an oddity. CA made their reputation on affordable, well made but not necessarily well finished, snub-nose revolvers. The Target Bulldogs, then as now, were/are the only guns that I know of with barrels longer than 2" - and they were all 4" w/adjustable sights.
The fixed sight 6" tapered barrel piece was simply known as the BULLDOG .357 MAGNUM and appears to have been the first CA production model chambered for the .357 Mag cartridge. It appears to have had a fairly short production life and was eventually replaced by the TRACKER Model offered with 2.5", 4" and 6" Bull barrelled 5 shooters with rear fully adjustable sights. Earlier production pieces with 6" barrels were the PATHFINDER in .22lr and .22 WMRF - both of which had tapered barrels and adjustable rear sights and were also offered with 2" and 3" barrels. The UNDERCOVER was also offered with a 3" tapered barrel and fixed sights - these are very uncommon, I own two examples. The last iteration (circa 1989-90) of the TARGET model was offered in Stainless Steel, had a 5.5" underlugged barrel with adjustable rear sights. I have the last CA Corp. catalogue issued before the switch over to CHARCO (Charter Arms Co. which is the 2nd Gen. and has ANSONIA CONN. as the barrel address, circa 1991) which lists this TARGET Model - but I have never seen one, either live or on the net. The original TARGET .44s and .357 Mags. are fairly commonly found.
When I initially responded to this thread I didn't realize that it was two years old and had been revived by one poster. At this point it would be great if the OP would step in and tell us what they have found in their more extensive research.
I've been neglecting my research for the past 6 or 7 months, but with input from folks like you all, I hope to have enough data to revise the Charter Arms section of the "BLUE BOOK OF GUN VALUES" by Steve Fjestad for the 32nd Edition, 2011. I'm already a contributing editor for H&R firearms for the "BLUE BOOK"...research is tough to do...LOL
Jim Hauff
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Jim Hauff H&R Collector In memory of my friends Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie.
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August 7th, 2010, 02:26 PM #34
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The original idea behind the CHARTER ARMS CORP. UNDERCOVER and all the subsequent models - was to produce a lower cost, high quality revolver that would appeal to the "blue collar/working man" and fit into his price range. I believe they suceeded in doing so. The design is/was strong - no side plate and minimal cylinder crane frame intrusion - and simple - fewer moving parts than most other firearms. The designer, Doug McClennahan, who founded the company in 1964, had previously worked for Colt's PAT. FA Co, High Standard and Ruger as a design engineer. Many of the features found on the CA revolvers were derived from designs he had come-up with for those companies, who were not interested in producing his UNDERCOVER model.
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September 18th, 2010, 10:04 PM #35Junior Member
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Re: Charter Arms Research
Hi,
I have a stainless CA 38sp Serial # 694914 purchased in 1981 in Houston.
Like new, haven't fired it since the eary 1980s. Will shoot it tomorrow!
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September 19th, 2010, 05:09 PM #36
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September 19th, 2010, 06:01 PM #37Junior Member
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Sorry, it is an Undercover.
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September 19th, 2010, 07:39 PM #38
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Re: Charter Arms Research
I have an older (1964-1970) Charter Arms Corp. model Undercover .38 SPL that was manufactured in Bridgeport, Conn. The serial number is 273XXX. The pistol was originally my father’s so unfortunately I do not know when or where he purchased it. He was not in Law Enforcement but I do believe he told me he purchased it from a friend of his that was at one time in Law Enforcement. It is still in pretty good condition with only minimal wear & tear for a 40-46 year old pistol. The wood grips are in excellent condition. It fires as straight as any pistol I have. I noticed it does have the safety bar that sits between the firing pin and hammer similar to my Colt King Cobra .357. I have kept it cleaned and put away since his passing 10 years ago. I am attaching 2 pictures of it for reference. The last 3 numbers of the serial number have been covered so don't mistake it for having 273 as the serial number. Hope this helps in your research.
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September 28th, 2010, 03:55 PM #40
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Thanks, Pistolpacker:
I've entered your data into my database. Every little bit helps.
Jim HauffJim Hauff H&R Collector In memory of my friends Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie.
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