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    Default Re: Charter Arms Research

    That's terrible, he gave me a lot of great info on a co-workers H&R 929. May he rest in peace.

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    I read this through this wonderful thread only to learn that its original poster is now deceased. I am so sad that I never had an opportunity to communicate with him.

    That being said, I have an early CA Target Bulldog w/ 4" barrel from the Stratford, CT era. Has anyone seen an instruction manual that can be downloaded for reference purposes?

    RIP 32 Magnum.

    LL

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    Realizing this forum is old, I'm still going to ask a question. I just found my Dad's Charter Arms Undercover 38spl, serial 16568 and it says "Charter Arms Corp, Bridgeport, Conn".

    Can any one give me more info on this piece. It is in very good condition, wooden handles with gold plate showing a tree, 2" barrel.

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave Dye

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    Hope you can help. I have a Charter Arms, serial 16568 on the right front side and it has the address on the right side of the barrel, it is a 38spl Undercover.

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    Default Re: Charter Arms Research

    Here's some info from the late 32 Magnum...

    32 Magnum
    December 26, 2011, 10:38 AM
    I've been researching the 1st Gen. CA revolvers for a little of 3 years - AND still looking for more info. Here's a copy of my very rough research notes:

    The very first Charter Arms Corporation production began in 1965 in BRIDGEPORT CONN - earliest pieces - mostly Undercover model will have either NO address on the right side of the barrel or will have BRIDGEPORT CONN
    Around 1974, address was changed to STRATFORD CONN - all pieces made after mid 1974 will be marked with that address on the right side of the barrel and all will have CHARTER ARMS CORP. as the first line. Sometime in 1991, Charter Arms Corp. ceased operations. This was the end of the FIRST GENERATION.
    Around mid 1991 (may be as early as 1988????), the company was re-organized under new leadership and became known as Charter Arms Company - CHARCO, and was located in ANSONIA CONN. All second generation pieces will be marked on the right side of the barrel with that name and address in two lines. This is the SECOND generation and apparently the period which caused the most damage to the Charter name and reputation.
    In 2000, the company was again reorganized as CHARTER 2000 and relocated to SHELTON CONN. All pieces made during this THIRD generation will be marked with the SHELTON address. Early production of this generation seems to have been spotty and reputation still lagged. About a year and a half ago, the company re-reorganized under the direction of MKS Marketing and seems now to be if not flourishing at least it is progressing in quality and market share.
    From the limited data set that I have been able to assemble so far the following serialization seems to be valid: (NOTE: model name and caliber will be stamped on left side of barrel on all pieces)

    FIRST GENERATION
    0001 - <13500 1964 - ? CHARTER ARMS CORP. right side of barrel marking only, no address
    ~13500 - <315,000 ? - ~1965 CHARTER ARMS CORP. over BRIDGEPORT CONN .marking
    ~315,000 - <1,088,000 - ~1974 to 1991 - CHARTER ARMS CORP. over STRATFORD CONN. marking

    SECOND GENERATION
    >1,090,000 - ??? 1991 - 2000? CHARCO over ANSONIA CONN- marking

    THIRD GENERATION
    000001 - to date 2000 - 2011 CHARTER ARMS 2000 over SHELTON CONN marking.

    This is the updated (6/11) serial number info that I have - based upon around 950 data points
    The earliest 1st Gen - ~0 to ~13,500 have NO barrel ADDRESS and s/n is on lower right corner on right side of frame. CA company founded in 1964, first production pieces of the Undercover model produced in 1965
    Bridgeport CONN address - ~13,500 to ~315,000 1967 - 1974
    Stratford CONN address - ~315,000 to ~1,090,000 1974 - ~1991
    All marked as Charter Arms Corporation

    2nd Generation - CHARCO, Ansonia Conn address - 1,090,000 to ??? ~1991 - 1996?

    3rd Generation - CHARTER 2000 - Shelton Conn - 0 to where ever they are today. 2007 Charter Arms/ MKS

    From the 26 pieces in my collection (all 1st Gen) and from dozens more that I've had the opportunity to observe and handle, I'd say that around s/n 600,000 the finish was made a lot finer - although the integrals (lock work, action) was at least as good as the earlier ones. I have or have read magazine articles that cover pretty much of the production life of the 1st Generation, and during that period (around late 1980, early 1981) it seems that CA attempted to capture more of the market by doing so, also in April of 1981, they introduced Stainless Steel revolvers into the mix, for the first time. Some of the articles lamented that the earlier pieces, although rough finish, were rather inexpensive (~60-65% of S&W) and when CA began their "modernization" process, the finishes got better but the prices increased to about 85 to 90% of the S&W line for comparable models.
    During the 2nd Generation, the CHARCO (Charter Arms COMPANY), under new management and reorganized, the quality was definitely more spotty and haphazard. I've seen CHARCO produced guns with Stratford marked barrels, obviously using up old stock.
    The earliest CHARTER 2000 pieces I had the opportunity to handle (some fairly early 4 digits s/ns - were uniformly, poorly fitted and finished and had some horrendous and gritty actions. That seems to have been rectified under MKS's (circa 2007) new leadership and the most recent pieces I've handled - s/n's in the high 100,000 range have been "decent" but not as fine in finish and action as the mid years of the 1st Generation. This is simply my studied opinion based upon experience.
    Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

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