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June 14th, 2011, 05:34 PM #1
Another to watch out for - HB 1668
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See: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1668
Regular Session 2011-2012
House Bill 1668
Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, further providing for firearms not to be carried without a license.
Prime Sponsor: Representative KRIEGER
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 14th, 2011, 07:54 PM #2
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Rep. Krieger is an RKBA supporter. I even think I remember him speaking at a TEA Party rally a couple years back. I came across this and I'll post it here, as I think it may give my assertion some credibility.
http://repkrieger.com/Display/SiteFi...tsmanFlyer.pdf
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June 14th, 2011, 08:03 PM #3
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...011/0/8203.pdf
Rep. Krieger is very much on our side on these issues.
I knew this was coming, just didn't know when.
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June 14th, 2011, 08:09 PM #4
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
Good, it would a fine thing to see more pro-gun legislation offered.
Should one of our readers happen across the text of this bill before I do please be kind enough to post it.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 14th, 2011, 08:11 PM #5
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
This is weird that this is coming from him. Here is his stance on gun control.
Standing Up to Gun Control
Sign this petition to register your support.
We, the undersigned residents of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, stand together in support of our Constitutional, Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms.
Therefore, we oppose any and all government infringements where the ultimate objective is to limit access or to confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens.
http://repkrieger.com/guncontrolpetition.aspxThe mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held his ground.
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June 14th, 2011, 08:15 PM #6
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
Seriously?!? Read the thread, this isn't a gun-control bill. This is a re-introduction of a pro-gun bill from last year; this one: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=0750
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June 14th, 2011, 08:39 PM #7
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June 15th, 2011, 05:11 PM #8
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
Actually HB 1668 is the upgrade to HB 1538 to address some concerns the other side may have had to oppose this bills final passage, we all been waiting on this getting filed.
All 96 sponsors as of June 15 signed on to upgrade with HB 1668 and any effort to move HB 1538 is at a end.
read about this effort here and what you could do to re write the stupid law that you can't stop anywhere outside the few places listed in existing law if you have a Un loaded firearm in your car unless you have a LTCF permit.
2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...-w-o-ltcf.htmlLearn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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June 15th, 2011, 06:20 PM #9
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
For those interested, the text is now available for this bill.
The link I provided in post #1 will take you right to it.
Please be advised there is much more to be deleted from the applicable sections than added so read carefully and remember [square brackets] indicate text to be deleted and underlined text is to be added
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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June 15th, 2011, 07:47 PM #10
Re: Another to watch out for - HB 1668
Sanity check please!
It seems to me that this version of the bill eliminates any posibility to carry on LTCF equivalent from a state that does not recognize PA LTCFs. It removes the ability of the Attorney General to grant unilateral acceptance of another state's permit. While at the moment, there are no states that fit that category, why should this be eliminated?
Despite the "We won't recognize yours unless you recognize ours" crap, shouldn't we (PA) recognize any license/permit that meets our standards?Ok, misunderstanding on my part.
From:http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=1668&pn=2110
15 (15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully
16 issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been
17 issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether
18 a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and
19 the other state under section 6109(k), provided[:
20 (i) The] the other state provides a reciprocal
21 privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms
22 under section 6109.
23 [(ii) The Attorney General has determined that the
24 firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws
25 of this Commonwealth.]Last edited by -JD-; June 17th, 2011 at 09:57 AM.
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