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November 13th, 2006, 04:56 AM #1Active Member
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Character references in allegheny county
I am going to apply for my carry permit pretty soon, and im curius if anyone has any insight into the character references they want here in Allegheny. What sort of references do they want? I know they dont want direct family.. would it help to provide references of people that have carry permits? former bosses? peers? co-workers? shooting buddies?
I would really like to hear your experiences.
Im probably just over-thinking, But I have found in the past that bieng as prepared as possible when trading paper-work with the government pays off.
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November 13th, 2006, 05:18 AM #2
Re: Character references in allegheny county
Not from Allegheny. But a boss and a friend is what I used. 18 years ago but that should not matter.
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November 13th, 2006, 08:23 AM #3
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I used a neighbor across the street and the police chief's wife. As long as the references used aren't criminal elements, you're good to go.
Actually, the references used don't even have to live in Allegheny County, or Pennsylvania for that matter.
Allegheny County issued 8,729 LTCFs in 2005 (down from 10,081 issued in 2004).
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November 13th, 2006, 11:44 AM #4Grand Member
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Re: Character references in allegheny county
also, they don't actually call the references...or, at least, they did not call mine.
all they did was run the computerized background check and then issued my permit on the spot...took all of 15 minutes.
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November 13th, 2006, 11:56 AM #5
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November 13th, 2006, 11:59 AM #6
Re: Character references in allegheny county
I used two co-workers as references. Neither are LTC holders, and neither are shooters or hunters. However, they supported my right to carry, and were more than willing to provide references.
In the end, I think the sheriff's office is just looking for people to vouch for one's character, once they've done a PICS check and determined one is legally eligible for the permit.
FWIW, the Berks County Sheriff's office issued by permit in 14 days, and they never contacted my references."Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
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November 13th, 2006, 09:02 PM #7
Re: Character references in allegheny county
I used a neighbor who is a shooter and a good friend (he looks like a long haired biker construction grunt----- wait, he IS a long haired biker construction grunt).
Neither one got a call.
In the past I used another friend who was a business owner and a buddy who is a nurse at AGH.
27handLast edited by 27hand; November 13th, 2006 at 09:09 PM.
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November 14th, 2006, 10:09 AM #8Super Member
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Re: Character references in allegheny county
In Monroe County they require two references in Monroe County and they send a postcard to them with about 7 questions along the lines of how long you know him, is he of good charchter, does he abuse alcohol or drugs. My neighbor (who I carpool with) got his postcard the day after I applied, I was with him when he picked up the mail. I go to pick up my LTCF Friday.
BTW, anyone aware of whether the Sheriff properly required that the references be in County?
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November 14th, 2006, 12:11 PM #9
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"BTW, anyone aware of whether the Sheriff properly required that the references be in County?"
18 PaCS 6109d is silent on the subject, as is the PSP form to be used. Any requirement by the sheriff that references be in-county or in-state would be exceeding his/her authority.
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November 14th, 2006, 12:51 PM #10Super Member
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Re: Character references in allegheny county
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