keltec p3at jamming (pictures)

**Mootness** · June 6th, 2011, 12:35 PM

I have a p3at jamming, anyone know why? It is the last empty piece of brass that is jamming. I don't know why the slide isn't pushing the empty back into the chamber/back to battery.

The attached photos are how it jams, and stays. I did nothing to keep the slide in that position. It is a fired piece of brass that is stuck there.

**Edg** · June 6th, 2011, 12:38 PM

Did you try it with another mag? Im not gunsmith...but if its only happening on the last round, and the slide stays open I would guess something on the mag is holding up the last round. I would think weak extractor, but dont see why that would only happen on the last round.

**32 Magnum** · June 6th, 2011, 12:55 PM

Looks like the follower in the magazine is coming up too far and jamming the slide - there's nothing else on the gun that can hold the slide back. I've never had a problem like this with mine, over 300 rounds through it.

**gold cup abuser** · June 6th, 2011, 01:05 PM

Ok few things to try before calling Keltec to have then do a warranty repair:

ALL STEPS ARE TO BE DONE WITH THE AMMO OUT OF THE PISTOL AND THE PISTOL FIELD STRIPPED!!

1. Get a pipe cleaner or brass toothbrush. Spray some solvent into the hook of the extractor. Clean out that are. Repeat until pipe cleaner is staying white.

2. With a magnifying glass, check the extrator. Look for either breaks or metal sticking up inside the hook area. If you find any, stop and call Keltec for a repair tag. If you are confident in your ability to repair this pistol, order a new extractor and install that part.

3. Get a borebrush that is slightly larger than the chamber area of the pistol barrel. Spray down the chamber area and then clean that area of the barrel.
Run patches through that area until they come out clean.

4. Again with the magnifying glass look in the cleaned chamber area. Look for any signs of machine marks or burrs or obstructions in this area. Again if you find any, call Keltec and get a repair tag.

5. If you find no obstruction, and the chamber in clean, get a live round. By hand drop the live round into the chamber. Tip the barrel to allow the round to fall out. If the round falls out under its own weight then you should be good to go. If the round sticks or slowly falls out...yup call Keltec for a repair ticket.

Hope this helps

**West Chester** · June 6th, 2011, 01:59 PM

Are you shooting factory ammo or reloads? Have you tried a new magazine?

**adoddere** · June 6th, 2011, 05:28 PM

Like others said above, seems like a mag follower issue. If it were an extractor issue, it wouldn't only happen while extracting the last round. I'd try a new mag.

**CHEMICAL** · June 6th, 2011, 05:32 PM

If you have disassembled the mags to clean them you may have put it back together wrong.

**Mootness** · June 7th, 2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Edg

Did you try it with another mag? Im not gunsmith...but if its only happening on the last round, and the slide stays open I would guess something on the mag is holding up the last round. I would think weak extractor, but dont see why that would only happen on the last round.

I have other mags I will try next range trip. There's rain in Pittsburgh today.

Originally Posted by 32 Magnum

Looks like the follower in the magazine is coming up too far and jamming the slide - there's nothing else on the gun that can hold the slide back. I've never had a problem like this with mine, over 300 rounds through it.

Follower does seem to be the problem, I just haven't figured it out yet.

Originally Posted by West Chester

Are you shooting factory ammo or reloads? Have you tried a new magazine?

They were reloads that day. I don't think the reloads are the problem though.

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL

If you have disassembled the mags to clean them you may have put it back together wrong.

I disassembled the offending magazine. A broken pencil lead tip fell out, maybe 2.5mm long. No idea where it came from. I'd be surprised if that was the problem, but when the rain is over, I'll try it out.

Originally Posted by gold cup abuser

Ok few things to try before calling Keltec to have then do a warranty repair:
...
1. Get a pipe cleaner ...

2. With a magnifying glass, check the extractor...

3. Get a borebrush ...

4. Again with the magnifying ...

I'll try this too, just no time yet. Thanks for the advice. I just did the magazine first since those guys fall apart so easily.

**Bang** · June 8th, 2011, 03:53 PM

Have you joined or viewed KTOG (KelTec Owners Group)?

My P3AT didn't run well out of the box, until I fluff and buffed it per advice found on KTOG.

Anyway, only the mag or mag follower could stop the slide, as already mentioned, if the reason is not ammo.