Sbs question

**leplat** · May 24th, 2011, 04:27 PM

Quick easy question. In order to have a true movie style sbs (pistol gris shorty double) is it just the standard sbs paperwork? Yeah I know cant hit s&$@ with it.....

**GunLawyer001** · May 24th, 2011, 04:43 PM

You need to be more specific than "have".

Are you looking to buy one or make one?

"Standard" paperwork could be a Form 1 or a Form 4. And if you buy an AOW then the Form 4 is $5.

**leplat** · May 24th, 2011, 05:54 PM

Aww I thought it was a AOW but didnt know it had to be made that way. So a standard SxS cut down is a sbs with a 200 stamp? Damn!! I was referencing cutting one unless I can find one made that way. Thanks for ur help. Just thought it would be a neat toy. Might have to start saving to do it. Never did the paperwork before though.

@deadpan, yeah like that but SxS shotty not pump. Sweet link though but high price imo.

EDIT, so if it was made with a pistol grip and was cut down would it be a AOW??

**Longrifle1955** · May 25th, 2011, 07:22 PM

I think this is what you are talking about - called a Bear Claw 12 ga. with 12 inch barrels - made from a Stoeger Coach gun.

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r...le1955/BC1.jpg

**leplat** · May 25th, 2011, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Longrifle1955

I think this is what you are talking about - called a Bear Claw 12 ga. with 12 inch barrels - made from a Stoeger Coach gun.

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r...le1955/BC1.jpg

That is exactly it!! Made from a stoeger? Whats that run?

**Longrifle1955** · May 25th, 2011, 10:18 PM

Unless you can convert yourself and file a Form 1 :

I bought a Stoeger 20 inch Coach Gun at Dicks Sporting Goods for $300.
Shipped to Paladin Armory - they converted to Bear Claw and registered with Feds. for $475.00.
I paid $200 Tax
When they received approved Form 4 in my name - shipped back to me.

Total cost to me $940.

If you can do conversion yourself - you could complete for $500 ( Gun & $200 Stamp Fee).

Dealer is PaladinArmory.com

Gary

**leplat** · May 26th, 2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Longrifle1955

Unless you can convert yourself and file a Form 1 :

I bought a Stoeger 20 inch Coach Gun at Dicks Sporting Goods for $300.
Shipped to Paladin Armory - they converted to Bear Claw and registered with Feds. for $475.00.
I paid $200 Tax
When they received approved Form 4 in my name - shipped back to me.

Total cost to me $940.

If you can do conversion yourself - you could complete for $500 ( Gun & $200 Stamp Fee).

Dealer is PaladinArmory.com

Gary

thanks for the help man. 1g is a bit high but 5 to 600 is about what id like to spend but am afraid to cut it myself. But I can get the super shorty for 750 all said and done.... But this is my dream shotgun...
argh. Thanks for your help man.

How does it kick? Any other info u can dish on how it shoots?

**Longrifle1955** · May 26th, 2011, 10:16 PM

All I can tell you is it takes 2 hands to fire this - I also have a Serbu Super Shorty and it is also a mean toy to shoot - but everyone wants to fire when I take to range. I have a Rem. 870 Witness Protection with 12 in. barrel - probably easiest to shoot out of my SBS & AOW collection.

**JayBell** · May 26th, 2011, 10:38 PM

put a Knoxx Breachers grip(now by Blackhawk) on the shorty and fire 3" mag slugs one handed with no pain....
I'll never go back to the hard fixed grip.

**KevininPa** · May 26th, 2011, 10:43 PM

Have you ever tried that SXS with the minishells? I already have a double 12 that I can cut down and always thought that it would be more manageable with minis. Figured it might be like shooting a 20. I have an Indian made Howdah in 20 and it can be shot one-handed. That's black powder though. Not as snappy, but I have had some strong loadings in it. Here's the site for it. Too lazy to do the picture thing. Just got off work:

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBC.SHTML