Lower Makefield Township Preemption Violation

[gnbrotz]

Here's the question I posed to them most recently (and haven't received any response) - what happens when there's a new Board of Supervisors and a new police chief who decide to enforce the ordinance? Does the township have taxpayer funds set aside for the inevitable lawsuit?

There are other preemption issues that local municipalities must comply with. Another one of them is in regards to transportation issues, where they are subservient to PennDOT. If they (even unintentionally) overstepped their limits on that front (setting a speed limit, for example), would they simply stop enforcing it and leave the actual measure in place (perhaps even including signage)?

[kcr121]

Bumping this up.

If you haven't already emailed the Lower Makefield Board of Supervisors and township solicitor, now is the time. If you have already emailed them, now is the time to email them again.

Letters and phone calls work well, too.

[BimmerJon]

UPDATE:

I sent the following email to the members of the Lower Makefield Township Board of Supervisors and the township's solicitor David Truelove:




This is the reply I received from the solicitor:



Here's the portion of the audio from the June 1 meeting of the Board of Supervisors where they discuss the ordinance, and the solicitor acknowledges that it's invalid:






If you're reading this, contact the members of the Lower Makefield Board of Supervisors and the solicitor to express your displeasure that the Township is knowingly violating the laws of our Commonwealth. Email and mailing addresses are in the original post.

The next meeting of the Lower Makefield Township Board of Supervisors is on Wednesday, 8/17/2011 at 7:30 PM at 1100 Edgewood Road, Yardley PA 19067.

Lets look at it again in 2018....Frankly I have no desire to change it... hahahahahah

Vote all these tools out. What jackasses. We need SOME TEETH! To state pre-emption violation... NOW!
I'd love to see these guys in a homeless line begging for food. Forget who YOU work for again?

[Lady Beretta]

I live here and had no clue. I open carry all the time but I do it for work.

[Lady Beretta]

My husband is politically active in the township, I informed him of this thread and he requested I post this here. (He isn't a member).


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I live in Lower Makefield Twp. (LMT). I wish I knew the topic of gun possession in LMT parks was going to be discussed at a meeting of LMT supervisors. I guess I should read the agenda more frequently.

Go to http://www.lmt.org/video-archive.php and select June 01, 2011 and then select Other Business ( OTHER BUSINESS: a. Discussion of carrying firearms in Township Parks). This is a brief video and it is very disturbing, as it shows near the very end, several flippant answers by supervisors in response to Atty. Truelove’s question to the board about when he should come back to them with suggested revisions to the ordinance. The chairman said, “2018” and others chimed in, in favor of not taking immediate action.

Our supervisors have a DUTY to either take this ordinance off the books, or revise/amend it to fall into line with PA state law. I will be chasing them down on this matter.

From what I can see on camera the meeting was sparsely attended. Only two people got up and spoke: one Mr. Ruebin (sp?) and Ms. Torbert. Both took an anti-gun-rights stance. Again, I am really ticked that I wasn’t there.

Reubin (sp?) pontificated about the US 2nd amendment and all the major US Supreme Court cases that he believes still leave doubt about an individual’s right to bear arms — that this ammendment was intended solely for militias. I am always amazed at the stupidity of such a stance: there are actually people who believe that our forefathers wrote an amendment to the Constitution that expressly permitted our militia to bear arms. That would have been superfluous: what the hell else was the militia supposed to protect us with? Pitchforks? The founding fathers were not superfluous in constitutional matters: they made very brief laws that were necessary and sufficient to get the job done: no more, and no less. Were that today’s lawmakers so talented. Such anti-individual-gun-rights arguments are sinisterly spurious (nonsensical and fake: not being what it purports to be).

Torbert recognized that the PA Supreme Court had gone against another PA township which had a similar ordinance on the books. Then she went on to ask that the board look into how they might get around all that and maintain some “common sense restrictions.” What the hell is it about anti-gun-activists, that they can be so damned righteous as to assume that a township has ANY option but to submit to the laws of its state?

Perhaps the matter of protecting our right to bear arms is not pertinent in the lives of these township supervisors, however it is indeed very pertinent in the lives of their pro-gun constituents. In all countries where firearms became prohibited, there has been an acceleration of lost liberties. The first (and last) thing that will prevent the modern socialist agenda from becoming a fascist reality, is the fact that so many Americans own and bear arms, and we are willing to use them to protect our lives AND LIBERTIES.

Peter
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Peter A. LaChance
Lower Makefield Twp., PA

peter@tqc.com

[kcr121]

My husband is politically active in the township, I informed him of this thread and he requested I post this here. (He isn't a member).

Thanks to you and your husband for getting involved. I hope you've contacted the Board of Supervisors and the township solicitor to express your views, as well.

[Cory]

Thanks for posting. Rubin and Torbert rant at every single meeting about every single issue and non-issue. It's been a game up until now, but they've crossed the line and I'll let them know the next time I see them in person which will surely be soon.
And, of course, I'll be voting for all the right people whenever they're running.

[theo]

And, of course, I'll be voting for all the right people whenever they're running.

Your address says Yardley. Do you vote in Yardley or Lower Makefield?

[Cory]

LMT ever since moving here 8 years ago. Born and raised in Levittown, then off to Penn State, then the Marine Corps, Philly, then Cherry Hill and now back home for good.

[theo]

LMT ever since moving here 8 years ago. Born and raised in Levittown, then off to Penn State, then the Marine Corps, Philly, then Cherry Hill and now back home for good.

Hopefully heading to the PSU/Alabama game this weekend. Will find out tomorrow.


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