PA Capitol Firearm Check "procedure"

[GL23]

Here are the documents I received in response to my request:

Response letter (yes, I'm aware my mailing address is visible)

General Order No. 4.15: Security Screening Posts

General Order No. 4.6: Prohibited And Offensive Weapons

Capitol Police Department Firearms Acknowledgment Receipt

Text of 18 Pa.C.S. §913 (Possession of firearm or other dangerous weapon in court facility) and 18 Pa.C.S. §908 (Prohibited offensive weapons)

Is the issue the fact that they ask for ID when items are stored?

[gnbrotz]

Is the issue the fact that they ask for ID when items are stored?

They issue isn't that they "asked" for anything. It's that they absolutely refused to comply with their statutory obligation (secure storage of items per 913) absent the presentation of two forms of gov't identification when there was no RAS of a crime, I was participating in no 'privileged activity', and there is no authority that I can find (either in their own policy OR statute) for them to make such a demand.

[IronSight]

Is the issue the fact that they ask for ID when items are stored?

See what Greg posted, plus also the issue of them filling out forms improperly, and not confirming that the person bringing a form back is actually the person who checked it in.

Plus, there's also the academic interest in the exact procedures they're using to comply with the Statute compared to other county procedures.

[Howard Bullock]

Where does the Capitol Police get the authority for section 4.6.4 of the Capitol Police Duty manual?

[BlueTrooper]

While not firearm related, it is "weapon" related. I'm about to visit the Capitol tomorrow, to listen to the voting on Bills relating to cyber schools. I normally have 2 or 3 knives on my person. I couldn't find a banned items list on here or on google for the Capitol. Does anyone know what items they take away from people as they enter the building?

I hate to lose my knives, or lighters/other EDC items.

**update** Had my clear red water bottle run through the X-ray, and I got pulled aside to get wanded for a belt. I left my knives and lighters in a bag in the car. One of my bestfriends was not so smart. She had a pocket knife, and had to leave the building and put it into the car. The guards suddenly went really surious when they were confronted with a small pocket knife carrying person. I'd hate to see how they would react to finding a firearm on someone.

[anthony_s]

Wait... I have to put on my PAFOA mall ninja suit first...

IS THIS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO PORTRAY THERE?

A bunch of crazy guys walking around without drivers licences and carrying all sorts of other weapons!

Seriously why are you even taking a gun? Whats the point? It'll end up in a locker..

YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING..


Whew that was hard to type!

+1 Gotta wonder about these folks who are looking for a fight. DAMN.

[HUHwhat]

+1 Gotta wonder about these folks who are looking for a fight. DAMN.

at least half of me appreciates this guy, but the other half wishes he'd be more patient, and await full support.

[freesoul]

One of my bestfriends was not so smart. She had a pocket knife, and had to leave the building and put it into the car. The guards suddenly went really surious when they were confronted with a small pocket knife carrying person. I'd hate to see how they would react to finding a firearm on someone.

funny, I was there for the last rally and when checking my firearm I also had a very small pocketknife and said I need to check this knife as well and the guy looked at it and said thats not a knife LOL

[BlueTrooper]

funny, I was there for the last rally and when checking my firearm I also had a very small pocketknife and said I need to check this knife as well and the guy looked at it and said thats not a knife LOL

Heh, I had to go in and out the building 3 or so times. The guards got to know that I carried quite well. Who knew that click pens had enough metal that it would set off the detector? By my third and last time through, the detector didn't even beep on me. The guards joked that it must have gotten to know what I carried.

[edstephan]

Hosting PA Capitol Firearms Checkin form on my server

http://www.estephan.net/files/pdf/PA...pt-PDFForm.pdf


An OC Activist and 1 of the 3%
Ed Stephan