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May 4th, 2011, 11:52 AM #1
2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
Please take the time to read April 25, 2011 Rep Krieger request for co sponsorship memo on Right To Transport Firearms.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...011/0/8203.pdf
This is a work in progress CHECK BACK SOON
busy will rally prep to write a detail post, Rep Krieger memo will cover this for now.
OC take note here is the last block blockage to NOT having a LTCF permit, how doing your part to help change the law by contacting the Reps
See next post on who to contact and ask to become a sponsorLearn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 4th, 2011, 11:53 AM #2
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF pe
The votes on HB 1523 & HB 1668 was cancelled and now waiting for a RE scheduled day in JUDICIARY COMMITTEE and a vote please contact all JUDICIARY COMMITTEE Reps and ask when
ALERT & UPDATE
Got informed (2:33pm 23th) that the PA District Attorney Ass. Have come out in opposition to BOTH bills (HB 1523 & HB 1668) and are trying to pull both of these from the Jan 24 Judiciary committee agenda without having a VOTE.
House JUDICIARY Committee Reps
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...?cde=24&body=H
Note
HB 1523 is Rep Metcalfe dealing with Preemption Violations WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1523
70 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1523
HB 1668 is Rep Krieger dealing with The Right To Transport Firearms (If you need to have LTCF permit its not a right now is it?) WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1668
99 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1668
Kim Stolfer's "Activist" email head up
Two *Important* Pro Gun Votes Scheduled in Judiciary Committee Tues Jan 24
PA House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Action Imminent
The PA House Judiciary Committee has scheduled a vote on two important pro-gun pieces of legislation up for a vote next week on January 24
House Bill 1668 is meant to address the weaknesses in Pennsylvania law regarding the transportation of firearms and the criteria for which has created many hardships for Pennsylvania gunowners.
This bill was introduced by Rep. Tim Krieger who is to be commended for his willingness to take on this thorny social issue and try to resolve some of the mistakes that continue to plague citizens across this Commonwealth!
FOAC will grade a vote in support of this legislation as pro-gun. We encourage all gunowners to take a long look at this and consider contacting their representatives!
Read About HB 1668 Here: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1668
House Bill 1523 was introduced by Rep. Daryl Metcalfe to address the issues that continue to result in violations of Pennsylvania’s preemption law that prohibits local communities from enacting their own gun laws. Since there appears to be an unwillingness by the district attorney's in the counties where these flagrant violations are occurring to hold accountable these local communities criminally as is provided for in the law, this legislation provides for the option to hold these communities and those who enact the laws civilly responsible by imposing financial penalties.
Representative Daryl Metcalfe is to be commended for doggedly pursuing these local communities flagrant violations of the law and attempting to institute an appropriate remedial action option.
FOAC will grade a vote in support of this legislation as pro-gun! We encourage all gunowners to take a long look at this legislation as well and consider contacting their representatives!
Read About HB 1523 Here: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1523
**Note
HB 1523 is Rep Metcalfe’ legislation to correct Preemption Violations -- WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1523
67 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1523
HB 1668 is Rep Krieger’ legislation to fix the current law regarding the transportation of firearms -- WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1668
99 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1668
Please focus your attention on your Representative (if he/she is a Judiciary Committee member) and then next on the Judiciary Committee members who have ‘not’ yet committed to this legislation.
Thank you!!!
Kim Stolfer
ACSL, Legislative Committee, Chairman
www.acslpa.org
FOAC, Chairman
www.foac-pac.org
PSA, Legislative Committee, Vice-Chairman
Please contact the PA House Judiciary Committee Members as listed below:
Ronald S. Marsico ( R ) Chairman of Judiciary Committee - thx him for allowing the votes
rmarsico@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7832014 fax (717) 7052010 x
Thomas R. Caltagirone ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
tcaltagi@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7873525 fax (717) 7725401
Matthew Bradford ( D )
mbradford@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7722572 fax (717) 7722360
Joseph F. Brennan ( D )
jbrennan@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7729902 fax (717) 7722284
Dom Costa ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
dcosta@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7839114 fax (717) 7804761
Thomas C. Creighton ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
tcreight@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7725290 fax (717) 7831904
Bryan Cutler ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
bcutler@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7836424 fax (717) 7729859
Sheryl Delozier ( R ) past sponsor to unloaded firearms
sdelozie@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7835282 fax (717) 772-9994
Eugene DePasquale ( D )
edepasqu@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7877514 fax (717) 7804765
Brian L. Ellis ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
bellis@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7877686 fax (717) 2606573
Keith J. Gillespie ( R )
kgillesp@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7057167 fax (717) 7729869
Glen R. Grell ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
ggrell@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7832063 fax (717) 7057012
Mark K. Keller ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
mkeller@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7831593 fax (717) 7057012
Tim Krieger ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 PRIME Sponsor - make sure to thx
tkrieger@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 2606146 fax (717) 2606501
Deberah Kula ( D ) past sponsor to Preemption x HB1668 Sponsor
dkula@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7721858 fax (717) 7804784
Brandon Neuman ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
bneuman@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7834834 fax (717) 7051887
Bernard T. O'Neill ( R )
boneill@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7057170 fax (717) 7833278
Todd Rock ( R )x HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
trock@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7835218 fax (717) 2606505
Rick Saccone ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
rsaccone@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 260-6122
Todd Stephens ( R )
tstephens@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 260-6163
Marcy Toepel ( R )
mtoepel@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 7879501 fax (717) 7878215
Tarah Toohil ( R ) x HB1523 Sponsor
ttoohil@pahousegop.com
hbg (717) 2606136
Jesse White ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
jwhite@pahouse.net
hbg (717) 7836437
John P. Sabatina ( D ) expect a Nay votes
jsabatin@pahouse.net
hbg(717) 7724032 fax (717) 7831579
Ronald G. Waters ( D ) expect a Nay votes
rwaters@pahouse.net
hbg(717) 7729850 fax (717) 7831516
Batch EMAIL
rmarsico@pahousegop.com; tcaltagi@pahouse.net; mbradford@pahouse.net; jbrennan@pahouse.net; dcosta@pahouse.net; tcreight@pahousegop.com; bcutler@pahousegop.com; sdelozie@pahousegop.com; edepasqu@pahouse.net; bellis@pahousegop.com; kgillesp@pahousegop.com; ggrell@pahousegop.com; mkeller@pahousegop.com; tkrieger@pahousegop.com; dkula@pahouse.net; bneuman@pahouse.net; boneill@pahousegop.com; trock@pahousegop.com; rsaccone@pahousegop.com; tstephens@pahousegop.com; mtoepel@pahousegop.com; ttoohil@pahousegop.com; jwhite@pahouse.net;
PLEASE CONTACT ALL REPS LISTED that are NOT sponsors & ask them to become a sponsor and vote FOR HB 1523 & HB 1668
Call their offices, send Faxes and emails
Update June 15, 2011
This bill was was introduced after the May 10, 2011 rally, HB 1668 due to a large part to all of you contacting the Reps and everyone that went to HBG for the rally asking the Reps to also sign on as sponsors
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1668
Currently 99 sponsors as of Sept 28,2010 see below for reps to contact
PLEASE See & Read attached document at bottom of post, its been enhanced for easier to read-abilty.... the [grey highlight] in between red brackets is text being removed from existing law, the yellow highlight is new being added to law
This bill is scheduled for JUDICIARY COMMITTEE vote on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9am please contact all JUDICIARY COMMITTEE Reps
KRIEGER, TURZAI, AUMENT, BARRAR, BENNINGHOFF, BLOOM, BOYD, BROOKS, CALTAGIRONE, CAUSER, CHRISTIANA, CLYMER, D. COSTA, COX, CREIGHTON, CUTLER, DAY, DENLINGER, ELLIS, EVANKOVICH, EVERETT, FARRY, FLECK, GABLER, GEIST, GEORGE, GIBBONS, GILLEN, GINGRICH, GODSHALL, GOODMAN, GRELL, GROVE, HAHN, HALUSKA, HARHART, HARRIS, HENNESSEY, HESS, HICKERNELL, HORNAMAN, HUTCHINSON, KAUFFMAN, F. KELLER, M. K. KELLER, KORTZ, KULA, LAWRENCE, LONGIETTI, MAJOR, MALONEY, MARSHALL, MASSER, METCALFE, METZGAR, MILLARD, MILLER, MOUL, MULLERY, MUSTIO, OBERLANDER, PEIFER, PERRY, PETRARCA, PICKETT, PYLE, QUIGLEY, RAPP, READSHAW, REED, REESE, ROAE, ROCK, SACCONE, SAYLOR, SCHRODER, SONNEY, STABACK, STERN, STEVENSON, SWANGER, TALLMAN, TAYLOR, VULAKOVICH, WHITE, MAHER, BAKER, NEUMAN, BEAR, TOBASH, HARHAI, EMRICK, HEFFLEY, REICHLEY, KNOWLES, PAYNE, KOTIK and DUNBAR 9-28-2011
Pasted sponsor to HB 750 - these should be easy to get them to resign so ASK these First
R Karen Boback kboback@pahousegop.com said would sign on - waiting on verification
R Sheryl Delozier sdelozie@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R John R. Evans jevans@pahousegop.com
R Susan C. "Sue" Helm shelm@pahousegop.com
D Joseph F. Markosek jmarkose@pahouse.net
D Tim Mahoney tmahoney@pahouse.net
R Mario M. Scavello mscavell@pahousegop.com
R Samuel H. Smith shsmith@pahousegop.com
R Mike Vereb mvereb@pahousegop.com
Newly elected Reps or Reps that usually vote pro gun in the end
D Bryan Barbin bbarbin@pahouse.net
D Joseph F. Brennan jbrennan@pahouse.net
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R Rosemary Brown rbrown@pahousegop.com
D Frank Burns fburns@pahouse.net
D Mike Carroll mcarroll@pahouse.net
D H. Scott Conklin sconklin@pahouse.net
R Lynda Culver lculver@pahousegop.com
D Peter J. Daley pdaley@pahouse.net
D Daniel Deasy ddeasy@pahouse.net
D Tony DeLuca tdeluca@pahouse.net
D Eugene DePasquale edepasqu@pahouse.net
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
D Frank Dermody fdermody@pahouse.net
D H. William DeWeese wdeweese@pahouse.net
R Gene DiGirolamo gdigirol@pahousegop.com
D Florindo J. Fabrizio ffabrizi@pahouse.net
D Marc J. Gergely mgergely@pahouse.net said would sign on - waiting on verification
R Keith J. Gillespie kgillesp@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R Joe Hackett jhackett@pahousegop.com
D Michael K. Hanna mhanna@pahouse.net
D Patrick J Harkins pharkins@pahouse.net
R Kate Harper kharper@pahousegop.com
R Warren Kampf wkampf@pahousegop.com
D Sid Kavulich skavulich@pahouse.net
R Tom H. Killion tkillion@pahousegop.com
R Ronald S. Marsico rmarsico@pahousegop.com
D Robert Matzie rmatzie@pahouse.net
R Nick Miccarelli NickMicc@pahousegop.com
R Nicholas A. Micozzie nmicozzi@pahousegop.com
R Duane Milne dmilne@pahousegop.com
D Richard Mirabito rmirabito@pahouse.net
D Kevin Murphy kmurphy@pahouse.net
R Thomas P Murt tmurt@pahousegop.com
R Dennis M. O'Brien dobrien@pahousegop.com
R Bernard T. O'Neill boneill@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
D Eddie Day Pashinski epashins@pahouse.net
R Scott A. Petri spetri@pahousegop.com
R Marguerite Quinn mquinn@pahousegop.com
D Chris Sainato csainato@pahouse.net
R Justin Simmons jsimmons@pahousegop.com
D Ken Smith ksmith@pahouse.net
D Matthew Smith mhsmith@pahouse.net
R Todd Stephens tstephens@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R Marcy Toepel mtoepel@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R Tarah Toohil ttoohil@pahousegop.com
Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee
R Dan Truitt dtruitt@pahousegop.com
R Katharine M. Watson kwatson@pahousegop.com
Note the lighter version of this bill is HB 1538, this added clauses in HB 1668 see section (8) and section (15) address some concerns the other side may have had to oppose this bills final passageLast edited by WhiteFeather; January 31st, 2012 at 08:50 AM. Reason: Added Kim Stolfer's email notice
Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 4th, 2011, 12:00 PM #3
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF pe
If you are all for the concept of doing away with the stupid requirment that you can't not stop anywhere unless you have a LTCF permit because you are transporting a unloaded firearm.
PLEASE do your part and contact the Reps to ask them to become a sponsor to Rep Krieger Right To Transport FirearmsLearn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 4th, 2011, 01:06 PM #4
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
I always confuse my PA Rep with my US Rep. In this case I believe I would need to contact newly elected Rep Tina Davis?
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May 4th, 2011, 01:40 PM #5
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 4th, 2011, 02:25 PM #6
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
Here is a sample letter for you to use or improved upon to contact the Reps.
Representative
Rep Tim Krieger April 25, 2011 request for co sponsorship memo on Right To Transport Firearms.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...011/0/8203.pdf
Would you consider contacting the new prime sponsor Rep Krieger and adding your name to this important legislation to protect innocent people from running afoul of the law
As a review of what the Right to Transport firearm bill address
This proposed legislation corrects current law in regard to the transportation of unloaded firearms in Section 6106(b) of Title 18.
Currently you can only transport unloaded firearms to limited destinations without any stops for any reason, no exceptions. This legislation will remove inconsistencies in the law and also benefit travelers from other states who transport firearms through PA
As a example the problems this will correct.
Gun owners (who do not possess a License to Carry a Concealed Firearm) can ‘only’ transport lawfully owned and unloaded firearms (definition in Title 18-§6102) to four places (not counting hunting) with NO STOPS in travel.
To & from a gun club.
To & from a ‘licensed’ FFL dealer
To & from a recreational home
To & from the police to surrender or recover a firearm.
To & from hunting with license (seasonal).
The existing laws language does ‘not’ allow for ANY STOPS for ANY reason and that includes fueling vehicles, dining out, and even denying restroom stops.
Being found guilty of violating this law carries a ‘lifelong loss of the right to own a firearm’.
This criminal violation requires NO mens rea (guilty mind/criminal intent).
Here is the essences of the change in the law
Adds a simple section of the law to correct the problem - section (17) Any person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing, using, controlling, selling, transferring or manufacturing a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose if, during such transportation, the firearm is not loaded
This will Protect Citizens against unintentional violations of the law and unwarranted and specious prosecutions
So Please consider adding your name as a co sponsor along with the many other Reps that have already signed on Rep Tim Krieger “Right To Transport Firearms” to remove this current injustice from lawful firearm transportation
If we could get this simple correction in the law passed look at all the warning comments that everyone wouldn't have to make to everyone that doesn't have a LTCF permit.
So IF you want this passed into law, consider doing your part by contacting the Reps and be part of the solution, instead of complaining about the problem.
See post 17 & 19 for more detail on this bills with powers of Attorney General
Another to watch out for - HB 1668
http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...-a-page-2.htmlLast edited by WhiteFeather; April 5th, 2012 at 02:32 PM. Reason: updated info on Attorney General powers
Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 5th, 2011, 08:05 AM #7
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
If the eight replies follow through this should give us in the mid 60's for sponsors, IF we can get this past the 100 number good chance of getting this moved.
If we can just get ALL the past sponsors to sign on again this should put us in the mid 90's alone. so that 103 magic number is not that hard to reachLearn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 6th, 2011, 02:00 PM #8
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
Got an updated list 5-6-2011 WE add 26 more sponsor in 4 days
Please focus on the remaining Reps aboveLearn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 20th, 2011, 04:36 PM #9
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
Update as of May 20, 2011 we have 87 sponsors to HB 1538
(fyi we had 90 last session)Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/
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May 20th, 2011, 05:04 PM #10
Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF
My rep and a rep I am friendly with are both already cosponsors.
I will keep an eye on this one.
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