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    Default 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    Please take the time to read April 25, 2011 Rep Krieger request for co sponsorship memo on Right To Transport Firearms.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...011/0/8203.pdf

    This is a work in progress CHECK BACK SOON


    busy will rally prep to write a detail post, Rep Krieger memo will cover this for now.


    OC take note here is the last block blockage to NOT having a LTCF permit, how doing your part to help change the law by contacting the Reps

    See next post on who to contact and ask to become a sponsor
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF pe

    The votes on HB 1523 & HB 1668 was cancelled and now waiting for a RE scheduled day in JUDICIARY COMMITTEE and a vote please contact all JUDICIARY COMMITTEE Reps and ask when


    ALERT & UPDATE

    Got informed (2:33pm 23th) that the PA District Attorney Ass. Have come out in opposition to BOTH bills (HB 1523 & HB 1668) and are trying to pull both of these from the Jan 24 Judiciary committee agenda without having a VOTE.




    House JUDICIARY Committee Reps
    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...?cde=24&body=H


    Note
    HB 1523 is Rep Metcalfe dealing with Preemption Violations WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1523
    70 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1523

    HB 1668 is Rep Krieger dealing with The Right To Transport Firearms (If you need to have LTCF permit its not a right now is it?) WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1668
    99 Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1668


    Kim Stolfer's "Activist" email head up
    Two *Important* Pro Gun Votes Scheduled in Judiciary Committee Tues Jan 24

    PA House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Action Imminent

    The PA House Judiciary Committee has scheduled a vote on two important pro-gun pieces of legislation up for a vote next week on January 24


    House Bill 1668 is meant to address the weaknesses in Pennsylvania law regarding the transportation of firearms and the criteria for which has created many hardships for Pennsylvania gunowners.

    This bill was introduced by Rep. Tim Krieger who is to be commended for his willingness to take on this thorny social issue and try to resolve some of the mistakes that continue to plague citizens across this Commonwealth!

    FOAC will grade a vote in support of this legislation as pro-gun. We encourage all gunowners to take a long look at this and consider contacting their representatives!

    Read About HB 1668 Here: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1668

    House Bill 1523 was introduced by Rep. Daryl Metcalfe to address the issues that continue to result in violations of Pennsylvania’s preemption law that prohibits local communities from enacting their own gun laws. Since there appears to be an unwillingness by the district attorney's in the counties where these flagrant violations are occurring to hold accountable these local communities criminally as is provided for in the law, this legislation provides for the option to hold these communities and those who enact the laws civilly responsible by imposing financial penalties.

    Representative Daryl Metcalfe is to be commended for doggedly pursuing these local communities flagrant violations of the law and attempting to institute an appropriate remedial action option.

    FOAC will grade a vote in support of this legislation as pro-gun! We encourage all gunowners to take a long look at this legislation as well and consider contacting their representatives!

    Read About HB 1523 Here: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1523

    **Note
    HB 1523
    is Rep Metcalfe’ legislation to correct Preemption Violations -- WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1523
    67
    Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1523

    HB 1668 is Rep Krieger’ legislation to fix the current law regarding the transportation of firearms -- WE WANT them to VOTE FOR HB 1668
    99
    Reps signed on as sponsors to HB 1668

    Please focus your attention on your Representative (if he/she is a Judiciary Committee member) and then next on the Judiciary Committee members who have ‘not’ yet committed to this legislation.

    Thank you!!!

    Kim Stolfer
    ACSL, Legislative Committee, Chairman
    www.acslpa.org
    FOAC, Chairman
    www.foac-pac.org
    PSA, Legislative Committee, Vice-Chairman

    Please contact the PA House Judiciary Committee Members as listed below:



    Ronald S. Marsico ( R ) Chairman of Judiciary Committee - thx him for allowing the votes
    rmarsico@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7832014 fax (717) 7052010 x

    Thomas R. Caltagirone ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    tcaltagi@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7873525 fax (717) 7725401


    Matthew Bradford ( D )
    mbradford@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7722572 fax (717) 7722360

    Joseph F. Brennan ( D )
    jbrennan@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7729902 fax (717) 7722284

    Dom Costa ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    dcosta@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7839114 fax (717) 7804761

    Thomas C. Creighton ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    tcreight@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7725290 fax (717) 7831904

    Bryan Cutler ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    bcutler@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7836424 fax (717) 7729859


    Sheryl Delozier ( R ) past sponsor to unloaded firearms
    sdelozie@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7835282 fax (717) 772-9994

    Eugene DePasquale ( D )
    edepasqu@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7877514 fax (717) 7804765

    Brian L. Ellis ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    bellis@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7877686 fax (717) 2606573


    Keith J. Gillespie ( R )
    kgillesp@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7057167 fax (717) 7729869

    Glen R. Grell ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    ggrell@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7832063 fax (717) 7057012

    Mark K. Keller ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    mkeller@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7831593 fax (717) 7057012

    Tim Krieger ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 PRIME Sponsor - make sure to thx
    tkrieger@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 2606146 fax (717) 2606501

    Deberah Kula ( D ) past sponsor to Preemption x HB1668 Sponsor
    dkula@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7721858 fax (717) 7804784


    Brandon Neuman ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    bneuman@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7834834 fax (717) 7051887

    Bernard T. O'Neill ( R )
    boneill@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7057170 fax (717) 7833278

    Todd Rock ( R )x HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    trock@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7835218 fax (717) 2606505

    Rick Saccone ( R ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    rsaccone@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 260-6122


    Todd Stephens ( R )
    tstephens@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 260-6163

    Marcy Toepel ( R )
    mtoepel@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 7879501 fax (717) 7878215

    Tarah Toohil ( R ) x HB1523 Sponsor
    ttoohil@pahousegop.com
    hbg (717) 2606136

    Jesse White ( D ) HB1523 Sponsor x HB1668 Sponsor
    jwhite@pahouse.net
    hbg (717) 7836437


    John P. Sabatina ( D ) expect a Nay votes
    jsabatin@pahouse.net
    hbg(717) 7724032 fax (717) 7831579

    Ronald G. Waters ( D ) expect a Nay votes
    rwaters@pahouse.net
    hbg(717) 7729850 fax (717) 7831516

    Batch EMAIL


    rmarsico@pahousegop.com; tcaltagi@pahouse.net; mbradford@pahouse.net; jbrennan@pahouse.net; dcosta@pahouse.net; tcreight@pahousegop.com; bcutler@pahousegop.com; sdelozie@pahousegop.com; edepasqu@pahouse.net; bellis@pahousegop.com; kgillesp@pahousegop.com; ggrell@pahousegop.com; mkeller@pahousegop.com; tkrieger@pahousegop.com; dkula@pahouse.net; bneuman@pahouse.net; boneill@pahousegop.com; trock@pahousegop.com; rsaccone@pahousegop.com; tstephens@pahousegop.com; mtoepel@pahousegop.com; ttoohil@pahousegop.com; jwhite@pahouse.net;

    PLEASE CONTACT ALL REPS LISTED that are NOT sponsors & ask them to become a sponsor and vote FOR HB 1523 & HB 1668

    Call their offices, send Faxes and emails
















    Update June 15, 2011
    This bill was was introduced after the May 10, 2011 rally, HB 1668 due to a large part to all of you contacting the Reps and everyone that went to HBG for the rally asking the Reps to also sign on as sponsors

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1668

    Currently 99 sponsors as of Sept 28,2010 see below for reps to contact

    PLEASE See & Read attached document at bottom of post, its been enhanced for easier to read-abilty.... the [grey highlight] in between red brackets is text being removed from existing law, the yellow highlight is new being added to law

    This bill is scheduled for JUDICIARY COMMITTEE vote on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9am please contact all JUDICIARY COMMITTEE Reps



    KRIEGER, TURZAI, AUMENT, BARRAR, BENNINGHOFF, BLOOM, BOYD, BROOKS, CALTAGIRONE, CAUSER, CHRISTIANA, CLYMER, D. COSTA, COX, CREIGHTON, CUTLER, DAY, DENLINGER, ELLIS, EVANKOVICH, EVERETT, FARRY, FLECK, GABLER, GEIST, GEORGE, GIBBONS, GILLEN, GINGRICH, GODSHALL, GOODMAN, GRELL, GROVE, HAHN, HALUSKA, HARHART, HARRIS, HENNESSEY, HESS, HICKERNELL, HORNAMAN, HUTCHINSON, KAUFFMAN, F. KELLER, M. K. KELLER, KORTZ, KULA, LAWRENCE, LONGIETTI, MAJOR, MALONEY, MARSHALL, MASSER, METCALFE, METZGAR, MILLARD, MILLER, MOUL, MULLERY, MUSTIO, OBERLANDER, PEIFER, PERRY, PETRARCA, PICKETT, PYLE, QUIGLEY, RAPP, READSHAW, REED, REESE, ROAE, ROCK, SACCONE, SAYLOR, SCHRODER, SONNEY, STABACK, STERN, STEVENSON, SWANGER, TALLMAN, TAYLOR, VULAKOVICH, WHITE, MAHER, BAKER, NEUMAN, BEAR, TOBASH, HARHAI, EMRICK, HEFFLEY, REICHLEY, KNOWLES, PAYNE, KOTIK and DUNBAR 9-28-2011


    Pasted sponsor to HB 750 - these should be easy to get them to resign so ASK these First


    R Karen Boback kboback@pahousegop.com said would sign on - waiting on verification

    R Sheryl Delozier sdelozie@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R John R. Evans jevans@pahousegop.com
    R Susan C. "Sue" Helm shelm@pahousegop.com
    D Joseph F. Markosek jmarkose@pahouse.net
    D Tim Mahoney tmahoney@pahouse.net
    R Mario M. Scavello mscavell@pahousegop.com
    R Samuel H. Smith shsmith@pahousegop.com
    R Mike Vereb mvereb@pahousegop.com






    Newly elected Reps or Reps that usually vote pro gun in the end

    D Bryan Barbin bbarbin@pahouse.net

    D Joseph F. Brennan jbrennan@pahouse.net
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R Rosemary Brown rbrown@pahousegop.com
    D Frank Burns fburns@pahouse.net
    D Mike Carroll mcarroll@pahouse.net
    D H. Scott Conklin sconklin@pahouse.net
    R Lynda Culver lculver@pahousegop.com
    D Peter J. Daley pdaley@pahouse.net
    D Daniel Deasy ddeasy@pahouse.net
    D Tony DeLuca tdeluca@pahouse.net

    D Eugene DePasquale edepasqu@pahouse.net
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    D Frank Dermody fdermody@pahouse.net
    D H. William DeWeese wdeweese@pahouse.net
    R Gene DiGirolamo gdigirol@pahousegop.com
    D Florindo J. Fabrizio ffabrizi@pahouse.net

    D Marc J. Gergely mgergely@pahouse.net said would sign on - waiting on verification

    R Keith J. Gillespie kgillesp@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R Joe Hackett jhackett@pahousegop.com
    D Michael K. Hanna mhanna@pahouse.net
    D Patrick J Harkins pharkins@pahouse.net
    R Kate Harper kharper@pahousegop.com
    R Warren Kampf wkampf@pahousegop.com
    D Sid Kavulich skavulich@pahouse.net
    R Tom H. Killion tkillion@pahousegop.com
    R Ronald S. Marsico rmarsico@pahousegop.com
    D Robert Matzie rmatzie@pahouse.net
    R Nick Miccarelli NickMicc@pahousegop.com
    R Nicholas A. Micozzie nmicozzi@pahousegop.com
    R Duane Milne dmilne@pahousegop.com
    D Richard Mirabito rmirabito@pahouse.net
    D Kevin Murphy kmurphy@pahouse.net
    R Thomas P Murt tmurt@pahousegop.com
    R Dennis M. O'Brien dobrien@pahousegop.com

    R Bernard T. O'Neill boneill@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    D Eddie Day Pashinski epashins@pahouse.net
    R Scott A. Petri spetri@pahousegop.com
    R Marguerite Quinn mquinn@pahousegop.com
    D Chris Sainato csainato@pahouse.net
    R Justin Simmons jsimmons@pahousegop.com
    D Ken Smith ksmith@pahouse.net
    D Matthew Smith mhsmith@pahouse.net

    R Todd Stephens tstephens@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R Marcy Toepel mtoepel@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R Tarah Toohil ttoohil@pahousegop.com
    Judiciary Committee - HIGHEST PRIORITY as first vote is in this committee

    R Dan Truitt dtruitt@pahousegop.com
    R Katharine M. Watson kwatson@pahousegop.com

    Note the lighter version of this bill is HB 1538, this added clauses in HB 1668 see section (8) and section (15) address some concerns the other side may have had to oppose this bills final passage
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Last edited by WhiteFeather; January 31st, 2012 at 08:50 AM. Reason: Added Kim Stolfer's email notice
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF pe

    If you are all for the concept of doing away with the stupid requirment that you can't not stop anywhere unless you have a LTCF permit because you are transporting a unloaded firearm.

    PLEASE do your part and contact the Reps to ask them to become a sponsor to Rep Krieger Right To Transport Firearms
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    I always confuse my PA Rep with my US Rep. In this case I believe I would need to contact newly elected Rep Tina Davis?

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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    I always confuse my PA Rep with my US Rep. In this case I believe I would need to contact newly elected Rep Tina Davis?
    Your state Rep Tina Davis that is who you should be contacting first, along with everyone on the past sponsors list.
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    Here is a sample letter for you to use or improved upon to contact the Reps.

    Representative



    Rep Tim Krieger April 25, 2011 request for co sponsorship memo on Right To Transport Firearms.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI...011/0/8203.pdf



    Would you consider contacting the new prime sponsor Rep Krieger and adding your name to this important legislation to protect innocent people from running afoul of the law



    As a review of what the Right to Transport firearm bill address



    This proposed legislation corrects current law in regard to the transportation of unloaded firearms in Section 6106(b) of Title 18.



    Currently you can only transport unloaded firearms to limited destinations without any stops for any reason, no exceptions. This legislation will remove inconsistencies in the law and also benefit travelers from other states who transport firearms through PA



    As a example the problems this will correct.

    Gun owners (who do not possess a License to Carry a Concealed Firearm) can ‘only’ transport lawfully owned and unloaded firearms (definition in Title 18-§6102) to four places (not counting hunting) with NO STOPS in travel.

    To & from a gun club.

    To & from a ‘licensed’ FFL dealer

    To & from a recreational home

    To & from the police to surrender or recover a firearm.

    To & from hunting with license (seasonal).



    The existing laws language does ‘not’ allow for ANY STOPS for ANY reason and that includes fueling vehicles, dining out, and even denying restroom stops.

    Being found guilty of violating this law carries a ‘lifelong loss of the right to own a firearm’.

    This criminal violation requires NO mens rea (guilty mind/criminal intent).



    Here is the essences of the change in the law

    Adds a simple section of the law to correct the problem - section (17) Any person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing, using, controlling, selling, transferring or manufacturing a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose if, during such transportation, the firearm is not loaded

    This will Protect Citizens against unintentional violations of the law and unwarranted and specious prosecutions





    So Please consider adding your name as a co sponsor along with the many other Reps that have already signed on Rep Tim Krieger “Right To Transport Firearms” to remove this current injustice from lawful firearm transportation

    If we could get this simple correction in the law passed look at all the warning comments that everyone wouldn't have to make to everyone that doesn't have a LTCF permit.

    So IF you want this passed into law, consider doing your part by contacting the Reps and be part of the solution, instead of complaining about the problem.



    See post 17 & 19 for more detail on this bills with powers of Attorney General


    Another to watch out for - HB 1668
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...-a-page-2.html
    Last edited by WhiteFeather; April 5th, 2012 at 02:32 PM. Reason: updated info on Attorney General powers
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    If the eight replies follow through this should give us in the mid 60's for sponsors, IF we can get this past the 100 number good chance of getting this moved.

    If we can just get ALL the past sponsors to sign on again this should put us in the mid 90's alone. so that 103 magic number is not that hard to reach
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    Got an updated list 5-6-2011 WE add 26 more sponsor in 4 days

    Please focus on the remaining Reps above
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    Update as of May 20, 2011 we have 87 sponsors to HB 1538

    (fyi we had 90 last session)
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    Default Re: 2011-12 Getting rid of NO STOPS clause with the transportation of gun w/o LTCF

    My rep and a rep I am friendly with are both already cosponsors.
    I will keep an eye on this one.

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