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    Default Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    So I finally took the plunge into my first motorcycle. I've always wanted to learn, but until now, never had the guts to do it. So I went and got my permit and am signed up for MSP next month, but in the mean time, I have been trying to get the bike up and running.

    The bike is a 2000 Ninja 250 that I paid next to nothing for off a friend. It only has 8k on it and needs very little once we get it running as far as cosmetics. The bike ran fine until it was parked about 6 months before I bought it. We changed out the gas, oil, air filter, spark plugs, and drained the carb bowls. The battery is a new gel type and the diagnostics built into the tender says it's fine. When you try to start it, it sounds like it wants to start, it just won't. When we tore everything apart, I did notice that apparently the bike had been run without an air filter for an unknown period of time. I verified fuel lines from the tank to the petcock were fine, air was being sucked in properly, and that the spark plugs were sparking and gapped properly. All the fluids are new except for the brake fluid, but the bike still wont start. I am assuming in that case it means that somewhere in the mixing of the three there is a snafu (i.e. the carbs, maybe they need cleaned ?)

    Anyway, i'm stumped and really want to get this bike running in time for me to ride once I get my license. Does anyone have any experience or know any good local shops I could tow it to in order to have someone look at it that knows more than I do? Any suggestions on more things I could try myself?

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    One word...









    Suzuki...









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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Clean and adjust the carb(s). Check vacuum lines. Hard to diagnose with such little info, but that is where I would start.

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    One word...









    Suzuki...









    I will fix your typo... Harley Davidson

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by dregan View Post
    I will fix your typo... Harley Davidson
    Hehehe

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Carb jets may be gummed up.

    Clean the carbs thoroughly. Use a one strand of copper wire to declog the jets.

    There are directions on how to do this on the interwebs.

    Run some Seafoam through the first tank of gas after cleaning carbs.
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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Member Lycanthrope helped me with my 250 a while back, but I am not sure if he has the time anymore. Also, working on those is very tight.

    Actually, if you are interested I have most of a parts engine sitting in the barn. Let me know if you need anything from it.


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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Thanks for all of the suggestions, i've been trying to avoid having to clean the carbs. I'm sure i'm mechanically inclined enough to do it, and I have found detailed instructions, just scared i'll screw something up because i've never done it before. I've been asking around and hoping that someone would have experience and the time to help, but i'm having no luck so far. I'd much prefer to watch someone else do it the first time then screw something up.

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Dog View Post
    Member Lycanthrope helped me with my 250 a while back, but I am not sure if he has the time anymore. Also, working on those is very tight.

    Actually, if you are interested I have most of a parts engine sitting in the barn. Let me know if you need anything from it.


    ~Brian
    Thanks for the heads up, but IIRC Lycan is from new castle which is about an hour away from me. That's a heck of a road trip to help someone. I'll let you know if I run into anything that I need. Thanks!!

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    Default Re: Motorcycle help, any experts out there?

    Clean the carbs and pay particular attention to the enriching circuit. The jet and passage for it is in the float bowl. A fine piece of wire can be used to make sure it is clear. A blast of carb cleaner through a tube and through the circuit will confirm it is open. The is a common place to get plugged up and makes starting difficult as it makes the mixture rich enough for the engine to start and run when cold.
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