well i finally got it done, went to range this morning and shot my 29 for the first time, never shot a 10mm before all i can say is wow!. it has more recoil than my 30 but is still manageable. i was surprised at my initial group sizes, they were right at 4 inches at 25 yards. with my old eyes i can not complain because i can do better with practice. i am waiting on brass from starline once i come up with a good load i will let you guys know. keep slinging lead, it is the only way to be profiecient. yours red dog