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March 14th, 2011, 11:11 PM #1
Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
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A change in state police policy could create problems for Amish gun-owners in Illinois, as a rule requiring photos to be on gun-owner ID cards will soon be applied to their community.
As the blog Amish America writes Monday, many Amish people use guns to hunt deer and other game, and to disperse "varmints."
The Amish are also known for being uncomfortable with photography, especially posed photography, which they believe leads to idolatrous vanity, according to AmishNews.com. So now-departed Illinois State Police director Jonathan Monken's decision requiring the Amish to have a photo on their new Firearm Owner Identification (FOID) cards could put Amish hunters in a bind.
"A lot of the Amish hunt and they usually use squirrel or rabbit rifles to bring some food back home," Douglas County Sheriff Charles McGrew told the Mattoon Journal-Gazette. Douglas County is the center of Illinois's Amish population. "Their big concern is this means they won't be able to purchase guns or ammo."
Leaders of the community met with their state legislators to work on negotiating a compromise that would allow Amish people to receive non-photo IDs. Pennsylvania and Ohio, the two states with the largest Amish populations in the country, both allow for such an exception on state documents when religious beliefs forbid a person from having his or her photo taken.
One source of frustration among the Amish community and its lawmakers: Monken handed down the decision about the FOID cards on his last day as director of the State Police.
"It was unfair for him to do this on the same day he was leaving," state Rep. Chapin Rose, a Republican from Mahomet, Illinois, told the Journal-Gazette reports.
A change in state police policy could create problems for Amish gun-owners in Illinois, as a rule requiring photos to be on gun-owner ID cards will soon be applied to their community.
As the blog Amish America writes Monday, many Amish people use guns to hunt deer and other game, and to disperse "varmints."
The Amish are also known for being uncomfortable with photography, especially posed photography, which they believe leads to idolatrous vanity, according to AmishNews.com. So now-departed Illinois State Police director Jonathan Monken's decision requiring the Amish to have a photo on their new Firearm Owner Identification (FOID) cards could put Amish hunters in a bind.
"A lot of the Amish hunt and they usually use squirrel or rabbit rifles to bring some food back home," Douglas County Sheriff Charles McGrew told the Mattoon Journal-Gazette. Douglas County is the center of Illinois's Amish population. "Their big concern is this means they won't be able to purchase guns or ammo."
Leaders of the community met with their state legislators to work on negotiating a compromise that would allow Amish people to receive non-photo IDs. Pennsylvania and Ohio, the two states with the largest Amish populations in the country, both allow for such an exception on state documents when religious beliefs forbid a person from having his or her photo taken.
One source of frustration among the Amish community and its lawmakers: Monken handed down the decision about the FOID cards on his last day as director of the State Police.
"It was unfair for him to do this on the same day he was leaving," state Rep. Chapin Rose, a Republican from Mahomet, Illinois, told the Journal-Gazette reports.
Both parties involved are hopeful that a solution can be brokered with interim director Patrick Keen.Peace, Prosperity, and Liberty
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March 14th, 2011, 11:15 PM #2
Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
I won't hold my breathe waiting for the ACLU to step in and help the Amish with this infringement upon their religious freedom.
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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March 14th, 2011, 11:18 PM #3
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March 14th, 2011, 11:29 PM #4Active Member
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what a scrub to do it on his last day in charge.
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Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
A Muslim woman tried this in Florida, she lost in state court
http://www.5dca.org/Opinions/Opin200...96.op.corr.pdf
I don't know if it has gone higher than that.
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March 14th, 2011, 11:52 PM #6
Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
and just like the indigenous society and way of life was unconcerned and independent of big gov., so are these people today. So if they ain't criminals by their own actions, create a law to make them all criminals. Round them up and make them history soon forgotten. "SHOW ME SOME ID!"
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March 15th, 2011, 12:36 AM #7
Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
Papers, please?
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March 15th, 2011, 08:31 AM #8
Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
Well, we ALL know how wiley & devious those Amish are, what with flying buggies full of explosives into WTC 1 & 2, the Pentagon, & Shanksville, back in '01.
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March 15th, 2011, 10:09 AM #9
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If this passes, I expect the amount of "Amish" gun owners to go up.....
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March 15th, 2011, 10:29 AM #10
Re: Amish Required To Have Photo On FOID Card To Own Guns, Violating Religious Edict
Amish Cross Bows???
Look to the One Who is wearing what should have been your scars...
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