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Thread: .223 For Deer?
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March 6th, 2011, 08:18 AM #61
Re: .223 For Deer?
didnt read any of the other posts, but why would anyone consider a 223 when you have a hundred better take down options? i wouldnt consider anything smaller than a 243. to me its a poor excuse to injure a deer and make it suffer. i dont care how well you shoot. just use a 410 shot gun with number 8 bird shot if thats what u want to do.
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March 6th, 2011, 11:18 AM #62
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You might want to read the other posts to find out why someone would consider a .223, if you're going to step into a discussion it helps to know what's being discussed.
I'll help you out with a brief summary of some highlights:
My dad & I have tracked more deer hit with .30 caliber rounds than we could count, we've never had to track one that either one of us shot with .222 or .243. That's proof enough for me. Several of the guys we hunted with moved away from their bigger guns in favor of the .222 when they saw the effectiveness in the field and then the resulting harvest having more usable meat.
If you like to track deer and/or waste venison you're free to use as large of a caliber as you want and take whatever shot you want. I was taught respect and that means shoot for a quick, humane kill. That's why we chose the smaller caliber.
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March 6th, 2011, 06:04 PM #63
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has a handful said, experinced shooters only...i know a guy that takes his daughter out with one, shot it, hit it the deer wasnt stunned and took off. im guessing died weeks later from gang green or something....and the ones that said they have shot dozens with one...well your either 90 years old, or poaching. i have been hunting for 37 years and can assure you, i dont have dozens under my belt and have taken deer for alot of those years. at least with a larger cal. and you dont hit it right, it will do more damage to shock it or stop it from running far. and dont say you gut shot one with a 20 and it ran a mile...true, if your chasing it...false if you let it sit a few mins before looking for it. it will lay if you dont move. just to many variables to hunt with a 223. i lost one deer in about 30, and it was because i jumped up and chased it after i gut shot it
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March 11th, 2011, 10:31 PM #64
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If someone were going to shoot you and you knew you would die, What caliber would you want them to use? Your thoughts and reasons for wanting to use the smaller round are rather sadistic. And you don't even care if you don't kill it humanely because you want to test your tracking skills? If you really want to test your tracking skills, Track him down before you shoot him at 30 yards.
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March 11th, 2011, 11:06 PM #65
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What kind of bullets and where are you hitting these deer??? I have used a .308 all my life for deer hunting and never wasted anything but some rib meat that I wasn't going to particularly use in in the first place...
And before the claim of gut shot is made, I have put every bullet right behind the front shoulder. I have honestly never had to track more than 15 yards.
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Re: .223 For Deer?
You people don't understand what bullets are for what. For Hunting you always want to use SP,"Soft points". If you shoot a animal with FMJ it will just poke a little hole threw it .If you use HP or ballistic tips they explode and fragment. Plus you want a heaver slower bullet so it don't explode off twigs and branches. But I think a 75gr SP soft point will drop a deer just as well as a 90gr .243.75gr .233 shoots 2750fps and 1400 ft lb of energy, that's as much as a .44 mag. The trick is you need a slow bullet that will expand and mushroom to .50 cal size plus the 69/75gr bullet is a lot longer. so it retains a lot of its weight. If you use soft points the bullet will expand and release all of the energy in the deer.
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November 17th, 2019, 06:56 PM #67
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Do you always cruise around responding to 9 year old threads?
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November 17th, 2019, 07:27 PM #68
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The problem with 55gr to 75gr+ bullets is, most pre-2000's bolt actions have slower twist rates. 1:12" can have a problem properly stabilizing longer 55gr bullets at .223Remington velocities. Proper twist rate is a figure compiled from bullet length, velocity, and diameter(to a smaller degree).
Lots of your bolt action .22Hornet, .222Rem, .223, .22-250, and .220Swift guns had 1:12", and the faster units(.22-250 & the Swift) often had 1:14". The .22Hornet had rates as slow as 1:16".
Our deer loads for the .222Rem were either 50gr or 55gr softpoints, but we also used bonded bullets when we could so they would stay together. The 55gr loads were rather hot to keep them stabilized.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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November 18th, 2019, 02:14 PM #69
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December 16th, 2019, 05:54 PM #70
Re: .223 For Deer?
One of my friends has hunted with a .223 bolt gun for a decade. Got a deer every year but one.
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