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December 10th, 2007, 08:53 AM #1
Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
What? I thought gun shows were the big "loophole" that the anti's are always screaming about. There goes another of their arguments....
http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1207/479138.html
Police arrest a man wanted by the law at the Harrisburg gun show. He was trying to buy a firearm at the time, but one dealer realized something was wrong.
Historically, gun control proponents don't support these types of large events. There's concern firearms may fall into the wrong hands. But at this weekend's gun show, one dealer prevented just that. The show manager says it's proof the background check system is working well.
More than 4,000 people are expected to visit the Harrisburg gun show this weekend. Saturday, one customer raised some red flags. "He was wanted. State police came over, picked him up and arrested him," according to show manager Nick Jubinski.
Turns out, he was trying to buy a firearm. A salesperson learned about the suspect's wanted status on the phone through the PA Insta-Check system.
Vendors like Jack Shuttleworth are required to dial before dealing. "We don't dare sell any gun without doing a background check on it," said Shuttleworth.
It takes about five to ten minutes on average, and gun collector Bill Castle doesn't seem to mind. "it's not a hassle at all as far as i'm concerned. I think it's a good thing. It protects all of us," said Castle. "It's a good system. It's the best system you can have, added Shuttleworth.
Shuttleworth and his fellow dealers point out another plan in place. In the interest of safety, all clips are out and the actions are tied shut. "If they put a shell in it, it still wouldn't fire," said Shuttleworth.
There's more security at the door, but the same standard for sellers whether it's here in harrisburg, or back at their shop. "The rules are the same: everybody passes a background check, or they don't get a gun," said Jubinski.
The gun show attracts many out-of-state customers. Dealers can still run background checks on those folks. However, non-Pennsylvania residents are not allowed to walk out with handguns. They can buy them here, but the firearms have to be shipped to their state of residenceDave G.
"Gun control has not worked in D.C. The only people who have guns are criminals. We have the strictest gun laws in the nation and one of the highest murder rates. It's quicker to pull your Smith & Wesson than to dial 911 if you're being robbed."
-Lieutenant Lowell Duckett, Special Assistant to DC Police Chief; President, Black Police Caucus, The Washington Post, March 22, 1996
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December 10th, 2007, 11:41 AM #2
Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
uh oh using the word clip... i sense an oncoming alert
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December 10th, 2007, 12:17 PM #3Super Member
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Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
This happens a lot more often then people realize. We had the samething happen at Valley Forge last year. We called the guy in and immediately went to an operator, she double checked all of his info with us including SS # said it would be a few minutes because the system was slow that day. After about 5 minutes, she ame back on and said it would be a few more minutes and asked exactly what show we were at. I knew then what was going on. About 5 minutes later she comes back on and says it will only be a couple more minutes, I told her I understood and was just waiting. About that time a local LEO came down the isle and looked at me and I shook my head at him, he walked over and with his towards the customers, asked which one. I told him and he immediately asked the guy his name and then handcuffed him and escorted him out.
Later that day I ran into the same officer and asked him what it was about. He said the guy had an outstanding warrent in Phila. for failure to appear. He said it was for a citation for having an open container of beer while sitting on his front porch inside the city limits.
So it makes me wonder what the guy in the above story did. They are making a big issue out of it but IS IT?
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December 10th, 2007, 12:36 PM #4
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December 10th, 2007, 12:41 PM #5
Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
UtOh!!
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December 10th, 2007, 12:46 PM #6
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December 10th, 2007, 12:50 PM #7
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December 10th, 2007, 01:32 PM #8Grand Member
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Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
yeah, really....I thought anyone could walk into a gun show, and walk out with a gun...no background check
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December 10th, 2007, 01:45 PM #9
Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
The way the Brady Bunch and the rest of the anti-gun crowd say it, you can. That's the loophole they want to close. It's going to be hard to close a loophole that doesn't exist. Any gun I've ever bought at a gun show required PICS, even a cheap rusty old piece of junk shotgun that I wanted for a project required a background check. The paperwork raised my out the door price by about 22%!
It's their typical way of doing business, repeat something that is untrue often enough and some people will start to believe that it's true.
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December 10th, 2007, 01:50 PM #10
Re: Man arrested trying to buy gun at gun show
So who was the Dealer? Stubby?
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