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April 18th, 2011, 07:25 PM #1011
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
Si vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
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April 18th, 2011, 08:02 PM #1012
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
So a violation of the law is trivial yet a group exercising their rights legally would be a problem.
Yeah, that makes sense
Frankly, I think the biggest flaw in your thinking is your belief that the civil affairs officers would be forced to deal with the OC group in a disruptive manner. Given that the civil affairs officers have been the most professional group of the PPD I've ever spoken to, I believe that thinking is flawed and incorrect.
This argument is a bit pointless though, as you won't see that size of a group there OC, and you might not even see that many supporters of our side there at all.
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April 18th, 2011, 08:05 PM #1013
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April 18th, 2011, 08:27 PM #1014
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
You sure are pessimistic young Jedi ! Not that you dont have reason to be at least a little based on past history, but Im keeping crossed fingers that we'll have at least 50 from our side there
Si vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
Proud to be an Enemy of The State
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April 18th, 2011, 08:28 PM #1015
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
Last edited by libra8; April 19th, 2011 at 02:03 PM. Reason: spelling
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April 18th, 2011, 08:46 PM #1016
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
Somethings getting lost in the translation. What Im getting at is that regardless of the CA guys professionalism ( and for the record I agree with you on that point 100 percent) that doesnt automatically mean they are any more well versed/not versed on the legality of OC in Philly any more then the Sgt that jacked up Viper. Additionally, if a large group were Ocing, and the perception was that it was an "escalation " or " provocation " on our part, regardless of the legality, that would, I believe, make it much more likely for them to not over look other more trivial issues, which BTW, is my understanding they cant even enforce, because the parking spots in question are handled by SEPTA Police.
Ask yourself this question
Whats more important/productive for our purposes ?
Ocing and all the negative attention that it would be sure to bring ?
Or being able to continue to utilize the mobile billboard that effectively forces all the HGC'rs to stand anywhere else besides in front of the shop ?
To me at least the answer is clear.Si vis pacem, para bellum
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud
Proud to be an Enemy of The State
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April 18th, 2011, 11:57 PM #1017
Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
We're playing chess here, not Kill the Man With the Ball. OC would create a dogpile. Or would that be a fustercluck?
When the SHTF......be the fan.
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April 20th, 2011, 11:11 AM #1018Banned
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Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
Mark just called me and informed me that a warrant for unknown charges has been issued for his arrest by the Philadelphia Police Department. 5 officers showed up at his place of work looking for him.
That is all I can share at this point.
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April 20th, 2011, 11:20 AM #1019Senior Member
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Re: Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
So...resisting arrest? Maybe? If they're stretching it? I mean, he did argue for a few seconds about getting on his knees. You'd think if it was that, they wouldn't have waited two months to make a formal arrest. Otherwise they got confirmation on the scene that he was within his rights, and I assume they ran his LTCF and found it up-to-date. I almost hate to ask, but...we sure it's in relation to the incident in February?
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